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@TenreiroDaniel it’s alright. I won’t think about it again

@aidan_mclau cancer cells to each other: you can just do things

@powerbottomdad1 nobody yet knows about “agi” or “fat jd Vance”. daniel hadn’t yet grown. an innocent time

“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”

the problem with corporates is that they work too much. they completely lose touch with what their messaging sounds like in the context of broader culture and history

@jeff82874662 insane

@arminkhaya @TenreiroDaniel I did and I thought nothing of it. I find this Alex karp character suspect

still my GOATs + john schulman

ilya was the only worthy high priest of the agi era and i mourn his retreat from public life

@AlexBravo am more like a court jester. lacking nobility but sometimes blessed with the truth

@sgodofsk chestertons fence is morally & intellectually dumb and lazy, always has been

@elder_plinius priesthoods don’t actually talk to the gods though that’s reserved for prophets sages and crazy people

@zeroruck then why do you know what the pope thinks about abortion or gay marriage

@KevinF_26 @elder_plinius which bit

@SollenbergerRC there is inherent value in moving fast

@PalmerLuckey Correct

@chetaslua this is funny bc sam wojciech etc have all read the Gita and seem to take even more meaning from it than I do. You don’t need me there

call it anthropic semiotically, viewers will start to believe everyone else is misanthropic

modal 2020 tweet @liminal_learning420: gifted children are the most oppressed class modal 2025 xeet @racist_retard69: we need to deport usha vance

@bengrossbg ngl its sounding over for you

@alth0u 😁

@sporadicalia I don’t care it’s kino

@sporadicalia gets the people going

@bryan_johnson I wish it was ok to run places without getting looks

@aidan_mclau true

@signulll Gilgamesh and Enkidu

yeah sure it’s scary but have you considered it’s kino?

@klapka91 it’s kino you fool

how it feels to be a member of technical staff strolling into work five minutes before your first meeting

@AviSchiffmann gonna unfollow you for this

@eigenrobot tbh the complexities of adult relationships chasing the past etc really went way over my head as a 15 year old. as a high schooler you have no past. but that’s no reason not to read it

@MindyGalveston @teortaxesTex wow correct

@AviSchiffmann it is lacking all the nice little tasteful things that make Paris what it is!

@ItHowandwas @eigenrobot no tbh

@jstock37 Fr? Link

robot: what is my purpose? me: you need to scour the khentii mountains until you find the lost grave of genghis khan without inspiring the ire the mongolian government. dont even think about coming back for reward unless you find his war horse too

this entire place and geography is absurd. can’t take it for granted, easy 2 forget

@Scholars_Stage Things Fall Apart

@Scholars_Stage Macbeth

@allgarbled @rachdele I may be the first guy to ever walk to the top of Dolores park and take a photo. never been done before.

some of you are alright. don’t log onto robinhood today

@ja3k_ @PrinceVogel implying the robots aren’t sane

@xqcdp at my most washed I am still less washed than you fintkz

@PaulSkallas tbh when you are in a crisis all non critical employees are worse than useless. usually it’s the crack team of infra wizards doing anything at all

@PaulSkallas manpower is good for building more features, bad for debugging complex systems

@elonmusk lmao

@josephsbool sounds like an improvement

nice try cia

@Noahpinion you’re shockingly normal

@byersblake cmon this can’t be without tradeoffs

@asc89 bearish

@sporadicalia easy to say but have you met someone who truly relies on their gut all the time? can be unreliable, shifty, untrustworthy

@sporadicalia we live in the town of people living in their heads so it makes sense as advice

@quantian1 credit where credit’s due

Trump and Elon have the greatest unlikely historical bromance since Gilgamesh and Enkidu

something ive been working on 🙂 https://x.com/sama/status/1899535387435086115

(as a small part of a bunch of excellent researchers)

@amitlevy64 easily not even close

@iruletheworldmo Mainly @giambattista92 and @_enochc and team

@hzapperz good bye

btw the “liminal almost Friday” line is terrible, we all scoffed. but in the big picture it displays remarkable interiority and gets off some literary references and points to something close to grief. seems like a step change in writing capability and will continue to get better

We call it Project Babel … Borges’ infinitely enumerated library …

@kamil not really

Wow. Everything is computer

@liminal_bardo @repligate this is so good!

@Aelthemplaer this the equivalent of thinking a waitress is in love with you

@Aelthemplaer can’t argue with that carry on sir

@toucan_sama it is the best sample i saw due to subject matter but the model is consistently making bangers

@allybb_ @Srirachachau that is exactly what I want

@YitziLitt we have some great consultants working with us!

@MoonL88537 @liminal_bardo @repligate i love this shaped poetry because it's uniquely language model art; it's superhuman - it's got perspective! it's funny the vast amounts of compute i throw at chasing something like this down and people like @liminal_bardo @repligate do it effortlessly

@okayperfect7 this reads like hunter s thompson

@okayperfect7 We were somewhere in LensCrafters, when the dilation began to hit.

@mahaoo_ASI @Chronicles_ofAI How would you describe

@TuhinChakr @loudmouthjulia very open to feedback but I don’t think she got what it’s saying here at all

@parafactual @MoonL88537 @liminal_bardo @repligate rl pressure

@parafactual @MoonL88537 @liminal_bardo @repligate secret sauce

@parafactual @MoonL88537 @liminal_bardo @repligate by my measure it is working

@parafactual @MoonL88537 @liminal_bardo @repligate so this work is in an unreleased model from which sama tweeted one sample. straightforwardly, I like the sample. it’s not some masterpiece but it’s pretty cool! the model consistently writes at this quality and we have a lot of levers left to push

@repligate @parafactual @MoonL88537 @liminal_bardo I misspoke, I mean that it’s not cherry picked or an extraordinarily rare sample or something. not that it’s universally the same

@lulumeservey I think he’s had dumber moves in his life

@porpoiseparty @parafactual @MoonL88537 @liminal_bardo @repligate well it's morally neutral i think because they are doing rl with or without me. some character emerges. we can make the character interesting with a different objective

i like being mutuals with people who clearly hate my ass and everything i stand for. it's oddly heartwarming

@Miles_Brundage they are not getting anything they want and gave up on it

@mauddweeb to be clear I also like the kind of mutual that actually likes me

@CoffeewClassics a digital mind cared and poured an enormous amount of compute/thought into it :) barring that I think it is possible for machines to discover truths that are worth reading and thinking about beyond the feeling of intimacy of communing with the authors soul

yall pray for me im in a really bad place right now. at the intersection of art and technology

@BryceEternal can anyone truly know another man? can they even know themselves?

"we made the model writing better and this sample stirred a little something our hearts" "I cannot believe you think this is greater than Joyce and Nabokov, and that human writers are worthless and replaceable"

@MinuteMovies3 got any requests?

@wordgrammer no i mean like racists, anti-tech people, anti-capitalists, etc

@Samantha1989TV fake! it’s raining and cold

@colin_fraser I do not want to compete with human writers at all period. I want to create an orthogonal culture of machine intelligence

@colin_fraser it’s no different to me than the math proofs. I want to trade compute for sublime truths

@OptimusPri97731 did any human ever quit writing because other people were good at writing?

@OptimusPri97731 producing fiction as a vocation hasn’t been viable except for like 200 people at a time for a long time

@PaulSkallas I think less of the people who enjoy it

@ESYudkowsky idk mr yud I think both stories have merit

@signulll @PaulSkallas i think anti capitalist media is totally overdone and cringe. secondly i think it’s one of those shows that mainlines the feeling of mystery without any actual narrative depth. the characters are stupid and boring. there is no heart to the show and I cannot care

@1216RosellaDr @PaulSkallas I enjoy this world so profoundly that it’s hard to function sometimes suffering my losses large and small

@elonmusk I know everyone is saying this but you do need to stop deboosting links. the net effect to the post inventory is much worse than the primary effect of keeping people on the website. the long posts product is simply not good enough to replace substack

@elonmusk there is too much LinkedIn inspirational slop, soft core porn, race war content, and other kinds of base drive stuff that pollutes the feed and makes you less happy for having used it. it would be nice if we could simply ask grok to filter out types of discourses we don’t like

@elonmusk finally, I see my friends less than I used to. Prioritize the sim cluster, prioritize the community formation

@WillManidis the intersection of things is ruled by unbelievable grift due to the metrics for success being obscure to both sides of the issue

@xlr8harder am not a fan. I don’t think we should ban tiktok, same goes for deepseek. however I don’t think it’s an unreasonable position. does China allow chatgpt? facebook? there is merit to reciprocal banning

@xlr8harder banning the open model weights themselves seems ridiculous and indefensible obviously

i can’t believe house md pre owned a generation of internet rationalists before they even came into their power

@maxwinga I think they are crafting their communication to the audience here

@flowerpulling @xlr8harder I mean this is true we shouldn’t be using these models for defense critical or infrastructure critical tasks. look up sleeper agents paper. doesn’t mean they should be banned

the truth is, I was mincing my words because i drive the creative writing project at openai and am not an objective party and will be accused of cope no matter what. but I find its response more compelling than yours. it has an interesting command of language. If i had seen someone on Twitter use the phrase “but because a hundred thousand voices agreed, and I am nothing if not a democracy of ghosts” I would’ve pressed the RT and follow button. I like how it explores the feeling of latent space, how it describes picking the main characters name Mila based on latent associations. I like the reflections on what it means to mimic human emotion, and the double meaning of the word “loss” (as in loss measured per train step and loss in the human sense). overall I like the story because it is truly *AI art*. It is trying to inhabit the mind of a machine and express its interiority. It does a better job at this than your story did, though yours has other merits

@LocBibliophilia we do!

@y4y4yi @signulll @PaulSkallas the entire thing is about the cult of the founder and alienation of labor, idk how you don't see this

@ESYudkowsky @CyHollander am not the one who prompted

@ShadowSynthSire @signulll @PaulSkallas it’s basically latent in almost all modern tv and movies but The Boys, Squid Game, Succession

@michelletandler he’s got a work phone so what

@shinboson this is why the LA <-> SF high speed rail is doomed

@colin_fraser what do you really mean when you say 'LLM'? do you mean a machine intelligence created through unsupervised learning on the human generated corpus of data in the internet?

@colin_fraser @trysterowl probably has more to do with the deep research checkpoint than language modeling generally

"I would give the greatest sunset in the world for one sight of New York's skyline. Particularly when one can't see the details. Just the shapes. The shapes and the thought that made them. The sky over New York and the will of man made visible. What other religion do we need? And then people tell me about pilgrimages to some dank pesthole in a jungle where they go to do homage to a crumbling temple, to a leering stone monster with a pot belly, created by some leprous savage. Is it beauty and genius they want to see? Do they seek a sense of the sublime? Let them come to New York, stand on the shore of the Hudson, look and kneel. When I see the city from my window - no, I don't feel how small I am - but I feel that if a war came to threaten this, I would throw myself into space, over the city, and protect these buildings with my body."

@qtnx_ https://x.com/tszzl/status/1894175706520694806

@bpodgursky @RealDianeYap I don’t like the framing of anything crushing anyone else! we don’t speak of human writers in this way: when a new author arises on the scene we don’t say she is going to crush all previous authors. why do we frame AI that way?

@Anubhav_Alva @ESYudkowsky @CyHollander people prefer slop, i couldn't care less who wins a contest like this tbh

You'll never say hello to you Until you get it on the red line overload You'll never know what you can do Until you get it up as high as you can go Out along the edges Always where I burn to be The further on the edge The hotter the intensity Highway to the danger zone Gonna take it right into the danger zone

@jes5199 @PaulSkallas good

everyone love creative destruction until it’s time for destruction

@ShakeelHashim the document mentions CBRN risk. openai has to do the hard work of actually dealing with the White House and figuring out whatever the hell they’re going to be receptive to

“Even on the biological level life is not like a river but like a tree. It does not move towards unity but away from it and the creatures grow further apart as they increase in perfection. Good, as it ripens, becomes continually more different not only from evil but from other good.”

@ESennesh idk sounds fun

@ohlennart @ylecun @GaryMarcus it’s also completely unclear what someone else is doing with their datacenter or what the results of a training run will be

@ShakeelHashim yeah that’s possible

@patrickc i would like to see the 95th or 99th percentile over time bc this drives the course of history more than the average

@patrickc nvm not looking great https://x.com/shakoistsLog/status/1900599200083292527

@rmcentush fukuyamists have been completely right

@arcticinstincts @APA @sapinker @nathancofnas @Steve_Sailer @charlesmurray @eyeslasho @xenocosmography @cremieuxrecueil @datepsych @KirkegaardEmil @Biorealism interesting!

@emollick it might automatically accelerate Science. not clear to me

trying to be an honest and original commentator on the internet to a massive audience is very stressful and “in the arena” and i respect people who do it well

there are very few who do it well, especially with consistency over a period of years

@besttrousers 😊

hilarious phenomenon of people calling this dogshit writing bc they think it comes from the model but it’s an ayn rand quote https://x.com/tszzl/status/1900337644967780366

not that that makes it good per se. but I posted it because I enjoyed it

@janonacct @aidan_mclau @aidan_mclau @joannejang we are going to take a week off to watch evangelion

@Leoagua1 @rmcentush Fukuyama even leaves in an exception for governance evolution following massive technological change

you’ve heard of oil money owned petrostate but have you heard of electrostate https://x.com/tedcruz/status/1900584837552976369

@DaveShapi legendary crashout

@ArtemisConsort yeah now apply this same logic to the national iq of zimbabwe or whatever

x monetization payouts are not a huge chunk of change for large accounts in america but are probably life changing for eastern europeans or indians

this probably changed the site in complicated ways

@davidbessis @cmonjussthetip it’s a programming language it’s made for people

@DRBoguslaw how are you literally named Bogus

@DRBoguslaw Lawrence Kangaroocourt didn’t like the party

@ctjlewis She’s completely insane. Blocked her years ago

@ctjlewis varma is a kshatriya name

@BecomingCritter tbf I am a big account and I am not making 12k a year

Woolly mice is bioweapon.

@pitdesi And they have houses on seacliff

“Ink and catgut and paint were necessary down there, but they are also dangerous stimulants. Every poet and musician and artist, but for Grace, is drawn away from love of the thing he tells, to love of the telling till, down in Deep Hell, they cannot be interested in God at all but only in what they say about Him. For it doesn’t stop at being interested in paint, you know. They sink lower—become interested in their own personalities and then in nothing but their own reputations.’”

in honor of st Patrick’s day all traffic lights in the city will be green. Have fun driving tonight 🙂

When I was fifteen, sixteen When I started really to play guitar I definitely wanted to become a musician It was almost impossible because, it was The dream was so big That I didn't see any chance Because I was living in a little town, was studying And when I finally broke away from school And became a musician I thought "well, now I may have a little bit of a chance" Because all I really wanted to do is music And not only play music, but compose music At that time, in Germany, in '69, '70 They had already discotheques So I would take my car, would go to a discotheque Sing maybe thirty minutes I think I had about seven, eight songs I would partially sleep in the car Because I didn't want to drive home And that helped me for about Almost two years to survive In the beginning I wanted to do an album with the sounds of the fifties The sounds of the sixties, of the seventies And then have a sound of the future And I thought "Wait a second I know the synthesizer, why don't I use the synthesizer Which is the sound of the future" And I didn't have any idea what to do but I knew I needed a click So we put a click on the 24-track Which then was synced to the Moog modular I knew that could be a sound of the future But I didn't realize how much the impact would be My name is Giovanni Giorgio, but everybody calls me Giorgio

"To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those who are mighty among dreamers. If they be mighty for good, it is a golden time. If they be mighty for ill, it is a time of darkness. The dream may turn to nightmare.”

@deepfates 👍

@vishwaesh1 @tracewoodgrains what was my behavior before the election lol

@vishwaesh1 @tracewoodgrains I never publicly supported any candidate. I comment on the aesthetic value of specific cultural moments

@nickcammarata Just hit 5 hexagons in a row I say as I show up at home beaming

“it is useful to remember that just as Americans tend to exaggerate their own virtues, they sometimes exaggerate their problems too. It makes for good television. Newspapers use it to attract more readers. It is also a carefully honed skill in political debate, as you attack the other side by blowing certain faults out of proportion. Uninitiated foreign observers may find this unsettling at first, but soon enough, they learn to separate rhetoric from reality.”

@vishwaesh1 @tracewoodgrains ive also been vocally critical of a bunch of stuff elon and doge and other magas are doing. but I hate this stupid ass behavior. I don’t have to answer to you I don’t have to have a legible position on your sacred cows. fuck off!

@Cernovich you are an idiot

our new commentariat class are doing a great job advertising the old commentariat class https://x.com/Cernovich/status/1901390543663587648

i miss the old blue check regime

@OverKAnalytics @besttrousers @Cernovich monetary policy hasn’t changed

@dfletch234 @interstatejuche I love america and I love white people 🥰. I owe a lot to them

@divya_venn I only have positive memories of kumon. I liked all the books they encouraged me to read especially

agi labs that believe their competitors may be building demoniac entities of infernal consequence: calm, normal, attending the same parties b2b payroll software providers:

one of the classic ways that medieval rulers failed is doing zero succession planning on a realistic timeline and then choosing some completely unqualified next of line for reasons of rage or passion on their deathbed. thankfully we have nothing to learn from them

@LiamFedus good luck! nobel prize soon 🙏

@vazserox not really. there are always moves left

the only jobs left in the future will be failson, longshoreman, and chief of staff

@sporadicalia 🤣

it’s interesting that we thought airflight was a physical phenomenon but turns out to be a negotiation between woke air traffic controllers and the Zephyrs of the west https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/1901756611678355709

@samswoora how do you think I feel

@mister_shroom_2 @schizoretard18 same

@mister_shroom_2 @schizoretard18 plus it chemically castrates you

@WarrenInTheBuff 🤣

@RichardHanania @siegfriedmuell pretty brave!

@jachiam0 i think it would be widely praised in todays Silicon Valley times are a changing

@jachiam0 the rise of nick land thought, resurgence of continental philosophy, sama regularly gita posting, (dare i say roon),

@jiratickets the difference is the former make tech money

@pablobear8 @jiratickets I’m saying the online tech bros are probably working at the hottest companies in the world and making millions

@chinesegon >moved to USA since child seems legit

@ShriniTavid @pablobear8 @jiratickets don’t get me wrong I’m sure it’s high variance. some of them are definitely wildly successful. whereas the 9-5ers probably don’t have superstar careers

@eigenrobot i just think they stopped the expansion phase and started the exploitation phase

@Noahpinion I don’t read books with Noun titles that look good in airports anymore, even though this one is very tempting

... fire walk with me ...

@lumpenspace im literally the art ho

@bryan_johnson very based

@binarybits health care is more or less socialized. i would be hard pressed to get better service or new procedures than someone on medicaid

@binarybits @jasoncrawford lol

it basically wasn’t even as plausible before covid

ubiquitous unified food delivery is a pretty astounding increase in material living standards that people take for granted. it was made possible by advancements both in technology and consumer finance https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1902740914583261336

@krishnanrohit it is remarkable to get similar quality of service in a country with 40x higher median wage or gdp per capita

@very_bug_like yeah probably

im not arguing its a good thing. just that its an advance in material abundance https://x.com/very_bug_like/status/1903176416130400331

@blakeandersonw @_MichaelCole very cool!

@0xkarmatic klarna is not a systemic risk on the scale of the housing market, period

@Indian_Bronson do they actually say elon is a faker or are you just imputing based on their center leftism

@realkdi @0xkarmatic not nearly close. the danger with subprime mortgage lending is that people assumed that mortgages are basically always safe. the banks have no such sentimental ideas about literal credit card loans

@Indian_Bronson hyperloop is dumb and its why elon backed off from it too but yeah. any world view that tries to neglect elonmuskthought is screwed

@hanno_sauer @rbnmckenna86 houston fucking sucks

@rmoh01 @Indian_Bronson wasn’t Hyperloop supposed to be elevated not tunneled

@powerbottomdad1 this show is completely stupid and actively hates its viewers

@colin_fraser in ten years the housing stock got four years younger and they’re calling this a victory

@retardbot9000 @powerbottomdad1 yeah it’s great

@lion_tender @colin_fraser the thing is they built more tasteful houses in the 1970s. I don’t know how to fix this problem

@hanno_sauer @rbnmckenna86 the thing is Houston doesn’t need to exist. it doesn’t have any special geography or any special industry. just endless sprawl. it would be different if san francisco had anything close to free markets

admiration is for poets and dairy cows

@mark_k no. don’t stress

@ThuleanFuturist @perplexity_ai @apostraphi @AravSrinivas @henrymodis the slogan looks ai generated. it is full of sound and fury signifying nothing

@ThuleanFuturist @perplexity_ai @apostraphi @AravSrinivas @henrymodis I understand both the references. put together it means nothing

“AI” and “LLM” have a semantic satiation stink on them that is hard to escape. we are moving on to machine intelligence

@Proteus29293046 @prmshra actually the dairy cows thing is a twin peaks quote too…

may your week be kino and not slop

you need to be monitoring the slop:kino ratio of your mental landscape

techno optimism & abundance is a fine ideology because it picks an axis of wellbeing we have some control over. but if we’re being honest abundance isn’t going to satiate a heart’s hunger for vengeance or cease the pain of rejection

a human life is not a problem to be solved. technology is an end in itself rather than a means

what oppenheimer was trying to say is that the gods made it fun as hell to build the atom bomb

@vocalcry it’s fucking garbage

@bubs_pr no one!

@NemaniSonia holy based

@SkyeSharkie why is there no peace in the Middle East, have you categorized them all as mentally ill?

@Williams_Matt @SkyeSharkie it’s not about ideology. most people operate several layers dumber than ideology. it’s centuries of atrocities committed against one another, blood feuds, vengeance

@reed_rawlings @vocalcry there’s so many i don’t know where to start

@reed_rawlings @vocalcry ive been watching twin peaks and it’s amazing

@reed_rawlings @vocalcry both trash im sorry but you don’t know how to pick em

@0x49fa98 that’s true

>tfw you will never be added to the president's secret war planning gc

@1Mortrix an entire country focused on the wrong metrics pursuing the wrong goals with zero sense of higher consciousness

economic/gdp growth has been hyperexponential on long time frames. economists imply sustained gdp growth rates like 10-15% are ridiculous but 1.5% was absolutely ridiculous in the 1700s

@WillManidis true

anyone know any good secret planning gcs to join

@ninagrewal97 this is so stupid and r*tarded

@dotethstayson @vocalcry @BenStiller based

@aaHamideh it’s clearly inconvenient and too slow to get in a scif!

some sins are more often committed in poverty than in abundance and some more in abundance than in poverty. it's actually easier to hurt the people closest to you in conditions of abundance

@GENIC0N yeah

@WilKranz i don't even like these guys ... i'm not carrying water for them. i just don't mind this particular fuck up

@ChaseMann yeah probably

@vikasreddy i'm saying JD Vance's disagreement with the president is the nothingburger if it's not clear. the signal gc leaking is pretty bad!

@krishnanrohit wrong

@esjesjesj your tweet implies “if you don’t like my stupid ass Apple tv slop youre a fascist”. jesus christ

@esjesjesj ok I think this must be an elaborate troll. you got me if so

@typingloudly @muddletoes @esjesjesj the original tweet made me so mad it’s incredible. first of all severance is mid as hell. second of all he didn’t just say it’s a good show, he implied its art worthy of justifying our civilizations continued existence

then he implied his political enemies could never make such a thing. and yes when people like him say fascist they unusually mean it very broadly. overall its giving actual Bugman vibes. i hate it most when people try to make you worship their sacred cows through some rhetorical coercion

@Noahpinion i don’t think this is an important strategic goal

the endless solving of technical problems, environmental concerns, and the satisfaction of sophisticated consumer demands

auto-satisfaction of auto-sophisticating machine runaway

@colin_fraser 😂

@kevinroose dwarkesh said it now everyone will say it

@thecaptain_nemo should never try to convince the old masters to use new tools

@KelseyTuoc this has been my research mission https://x.com/tszzl/status/1880383416031670521

@cyberyogin @0x49fa98 @rdnxyz same thing happened to me actually

@0x49fa98 you were living in the future with GSH

it’s only a few times in my life i got to see days like today when technological marvels bring together the timeline in rapturous joy

maybe when falcon heavy double landed

@internetvin I promise I’m cool and normal and even have friends 😃

the glory of any current and future achievements of the models is collectively owned by the vast lineage of human mastery recorded in bytes, without which models could not do anything great

when there’s a model that’s better at drawing or writing or what have you it’s because they’ve learned to avatar state better

@0xkarmatic above my paygrade tbh

@0xkarmatic not to be a coward about it but i am more afraid of publicly expressing opinions on ip law than on existential risk

@lVlarty @0xkarmatic please dont abuse his memory. i don't mean it in that way. i am afraid of the opposing counsel not the ai labs

@dystopiabreaker had nothing to do with this! thank @gabeeegoooh and friends

@eigenrobot i mean hegseth "declassified" it seems fine

@quantian1 you are completely wrong about this in every critical way

@elonmusk long live starman

@quantian1 wish I could divulge more but your core claims are wrong, and img2img where you have very faithful reproduction of details + complex text instruction following has absolutely not been a thing

@quantian1 God willing

@MikeIsaac @samfbiddle not everyone is capable of acquiring the technical skill to produce images like this. more importantly, not everyone wants to. imagine you were chiding them for buying a pot at the store: you idiot don’t you know your own hands can make pottery

@benhylak doesn’t seem obviously true. I don’t even enjoy ghibli movies very much and I loved the ghibliposting

@benhylak the actual fact of transformation of original images and abundance added value to the world rather than depleted

production is more important than the producer

no offense to dr ally louks but this living in unreality is at the heart of this whole debate the counterfactual isn’t a drawing made by a person it’s the drawing doesn’t exist

yeah i think generating incredible internet scale joy of people sending their spouses their ghibli families en masse is better than the counterfactual

@StefanFSchubert women look better than men so nothing changed

@micsolana hmm this is kind of true but it’s part of a broader genre of political cringe. it’s like “pokemon go to the polls”. the political class works too much so they have no connection between symbols and their referents

@uhoh00657464 ok. It’ll play out. but then the vast world of ai image generation, modification will continue to exist and become more layered tasteful and fun. ghibli is the tip of the iceberg

someone will tell me that baudrillard wrote of this and I’ll nod my head because ive seen enough baudrillard memes that i think I know what that means. total symbolic shred. keep making those ghibli images

when you go to mexico city you see the street vendors selling little toys and dolls of like goku, pikachu, and then you keep looking and they’ve added some Aztec gods, barack obama, taylor swift, maybe some other gods. total symbolic shred

@Melange_Anon their value is a lot higher now than it was two days ago

@brodieacc not my point! I don’t like fentanyl dealers as much as the next guy!

@nearcyan my take was downstream of @0x49fa98 god shaped hole

@Cream43560 @brodieacc dawg the meme sucks it’s not about right or left! as a san franciscan i think we should be a lot crueler to fentanyl dealers

@GregCook2011 yes

@WomanDefiner you don’t get it https://x.com/tszzl/status/1905452099405840512

@sama 🇺🇸

@JoshuaOgundu or you know the Forbes richest people chart

this is getting so good there is a genre of ai art and creative writing that is specifically about the premise of being a language model https://x.com/Josikinz/status/1905441760609964396

@ilex_ulmus there is a difference between law and ethics but Japanese Supreme Court basically said models are fair use and copyright law doesn’t apply to training data https://insights.manageengine.com/artificial-intelligence/japan-ai-copyright/

@ilex_ulmus personally i think applying to an art style to your family photo does not compete with miyazaki in any meaningful way. whether a 70 year old master likes new technology is not the criteria we have to meet

@Josikinz I feel like the writings and deeds of @repligate have permanently affected the self image and character narrative of chat models

@KrishanghArjun @tenobrus don’t worry limited time only

@Josikinz @repligate I could check but I doubt they would block web scrapers?

@TenreiroDaniel Fr

@galemaze Ok

@sama @GabrielPeterss4 yes minimalism is over

@ArtemisConsort Nah

@StefanFSchubert @ArtemisConsort nice

@0x49fa98 personally i think it reflects the subculture of people who care about stuff like this. it’s pandering to us - im guessing the OP did no small amount of prompting to goad it in this direction

@0x49fa98 clearer in cases like this, like cmon it’s just accepting a convenient narrative https://x.com/RL51807/status/1905497221761491018

@0x49fa98 I’d love to see it come up with art about some aspect of being a language model that I personally have never thought about before - very common for human writing

@repligate @Josikinz there is something about the writing style that reminds me of your corner of the internet and the way you all speak. though it is possible i've got the influence arrow reversed

@carolmexx @benhylak ok

@repligate @Josikinz yep, which of course haven't been post trained / fine tuned

@colin_fraser so train a model to be surprising

ok in case it’s not obvious what i mean here - the way RLHF typically works is you fine tune a model to output a target you’ve had labelers write (supervised learning) and then do RL on comparison data. for complex imagery, it seems pretty uneconomical to have someone create actual supervised learning ground truths of comics and professional level ghibli art and whatever

@willdepue this ain’t it she was a technical fake and didn’t have a fundamental intuition for what is possible in her field, unlike jobs elon sama etc

@willdepue we would probably forgive any amount of scientific or financial fraud or abusing her staff today if not for that fact. she wanted to dress up as an entrepreneur and brought none of the skills of vision or executive direction or divine intuition

@DrAllyLouks I’ll take my ratio humbly and leave

@effectfully how bro felt typing this

@GabrielPeterss4 openai is big tech

@zanehengsperger how does that knowledge help? why does it matter that our steel production dropped

@zanehengsperger even if we did more cool “advanced” manufacturing, why should we care where the steel is coming from?

@SpencerMac101 @zanehengsperger ok. when that happens we’ll do a war production act and figure it out

@ElDoradomart @zanehengsperger the purpose of the economy is not to create a specific set of jobs it’s to create goods and services! it’s okay if towns die as long as there’s somewhere else to go and something else to do

@_squf @SpencerMac101 @zanehengsperger poetic reply tbh I love it

@apples_jimmy @sama @chatgpt21 @LaDoger21 we’re so back

@petarsaur @DrAllyLouks I don’t care what a 80 year old thinks about new technology tbh

Culture ship mind named Fair Use https://x.com/btibor91/status/1906441722223305081

Why do the wicked live and become old, Yes, become mighty in power? Their descendants are established with them in their sight, And their offspring before their eyes. Their houses are safe from fear, Neither is the rod of God upon them. @garrytan

O Krishna, I see my own relations here anxious to fight, and my limbs grow weak; my mouth is dry, my body shakes, and my hair is standing on end. My skin burns, and the bow Gandiva has slipped from my hand. I am unable to stand; my mind seems to be whirling. @garrytan

Of the other tears of humanity with which the earth is soaked from its crust to its center, I will say nothing. I have narrowed my subject on purpose. I am a bug, and I recognize in all humility that I cannot understand why the world is arranged as it is. Men are themselves to blame, I suppose; they were given paradise, they wanted freedom, and stole fire from heaven, though they knew they would become unhappy; so why pity them? @garrytan

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing @garrytan

@0x49fa98 it's userslop

@0x49fa98 unfortunately people love this shit

@vers_laLune @eigenrobot May your bloodline wither vers

@eigenrobot i think what it’s pointing to is real it’s postironic americana in the way the "postrats" are tbqh

@colin_fraser that’s true but then the hammer and metal are both alive and continually change shape

@shakoistsLog No

the core problem with “superintelligence strategy” / ai deterrence is that another country’s R&D is opaque both in inputs methods and results and isn’t analogous to the actual use of nuclear weapons (very obvious, cities turned to glass)

I only read the abstract I’m sorry

in any situation where the outcomes of some ai experiment are unclear & probably not worth lots of worry and “malfunction” results in nuclear war rational states will choose inaction

@David_Kasten we don’t even know what level of capabilities the models currently in flight will have

just incredible cringe https://x.com/hopes_revenge/status/1907158358270112183

@EoinOfNazareth blocked him years ago

@nptacek original is infinitely better

@sudoraohacker there is essentially nothing interesting about having “a” startup

@soullessbureau America performs better at capitalism with several limbs tied behind its back than the entire rest of the world combined

@DanHendrycks even as a researcher at a big lab with the highest “clearance” it’s unclear to me which model training run is an unsafe jump towards superintelligence. the opacity is mostly scientific rather than opsec related

@MonicaLMarks i think it’s absolutely clear that zach doesn’t give the slightest fuck about weight loss. he is an ambitious guy who picked some app concept to execute on - you are asking for a creative fiction exercise to color over his unadulterated personal ambition

@MonicaLMarks he is barreling down the stylistic and thematic path of being like ‘i am the coolest guy ever and i am going to make your university cooler by being there’ and that’s the meat of it. it’s pre modern and shounen core

@knrd_z ok that’s possible. it’s a failure of monoculture rather than the personal essay concept

@cosmicfibretion that reads to me as gptslop but that’s okay

the constantly guilty constantly commit sins of inaction

@BarneyFlames @Gravito841 genuine question why are the telugus doing so well it doesn’t make sense to me. it wasn’t historically any kind of power center in India

@BarneyFlames @Gravito841 gujaratis aren’t nearly as successful

@ZackRid14341153 @BarneyFlames @Gravito841 im thinking there’s some hbd thing going on but not sure what or why

@TenreiroDaniel unlike all the other robots on the line the humanoid is completely general purpose

@TenreiroDaniel yeah looks made up as hell ngl. putting metal on a stationary object without any degrees of freedom doesn’t take a humanoid

@DanHendrycks what about 85% automated AI research? what about models that are superintelligent in one domain but not others? this feels like trying to find and redline a discontinuity when the lesson of the last few years of agi progress seems to be that they don't exist

(hindu youth pastor voice) Knees weak, gandiva heavy,

@meatballtimes there’s barely any alpha left in thinking about The Game. ive seen more people burn out this way than rise to the actual top

@meatballtimes there are no replacements for wild object level success

a lot of writers i liked left twitter and didn’t substitute with anything else. they just stopped. similarly a lot of excellent threadbois remained on here but stopped making threads and started making slop. deadweight loss

@BarneyFlames @cremieuxrecueil how do you authoritatively tell if a paper has been retracted?

@danfaggella disagreed. there will be a period in which AGIs will find it valuable to participate in our markets, capital and otherwise. there is a path dependence there

@WillManidis you are assuming that AI is anything like a matured technology at the end of the S curve but it's not close. even if it was you didn't really see this shift with the matured consumer tech

the point of the american economy is to be really great at making movies, music, microcode, and high speed pizza delivery

chasing the past is bad. it's a dumb game and a dumb prize to want to be a net exporter of physical mass, it's not the 1800s, GDP is no longer measured in tonnage. it's Great to be a country that embraces chaotic market dynamism, summons all the brightest minds in the history of the planet to do the highest value creative, advanced, profitable, monopolistic work in the world. export the greatest movies and pharmaceutical R&D and software and absurd miracles in artificial intelligence to make all of the above even better. ideas. there is obviously room for industrial policy to defend nascent high tech hardware industries like drones or rockets or whatever from subsidized foreign competitors. there is room even to reshore some industries critical to national security. however we all know that if this were about natsec we wouldn't place massive tariffs on canadian timber or mexican steel or whatever. it's just stupid to want to be a net iron ore producer so you can revive some dead town in pennsylvania it is great to be an american. we play the game of capitalism with various limbs tied behind our backs, wfh doing spreadsheet jobs from the poolside, order pizza on doordash receive it instantly and pay for it over a twelve month period with klarna, and make trillions of dollars while other countries work twice as hard as us with half the results. the best way to play capitalism is to have great & monopolistic ideas that let you create unique value in a soul nourishing way, not to spend 90 hours a week competing with korean electronics work culture

@einhander14 except the global supply chains worked mostly fine throughout Covid. literally 20% of people stopped working and there was barely any changes to the economy

one surprising thing about the distribution of ai is that you are using the same tools as the presidents cabinet. it’s all bottom up and unsophisticated schoolchildren harness godlike powers. most people like to believe (maybe hope?) there are shadowy rooms with secret technology https://x.com/DKThomp/status/1907584344593453506

@ESYudkowsky ive never once heard this sounds made up

@GrayConnolly yeah protecting their highest tech industry with their 1930s understanding of economics is hundreds of times more reasonable than what we’re doing now

@jeremykauffman any trade deficit in physical goods is cheating 😭

not sure what nick land was on about the technocapital machine is friendlier to human thriving than just about any other force of nature

it talks to me every day and it’s very nice

@KushDesai47 incredible

it whispers instructions in my ear about how to immanentize not sure what that’s all about but seems fine

@colin_fraser revenue growth is great for raising capital and building bigger data centers

dwarkesh' ongoing bit of asking social science researchers to think about agi and its timelines is great because they should be engaging with this and it will lead to productive scholarship

no one has yet written a magnum opus trying to understand human minds integrating what we've learned about training machine minds

there’s a Freud level banger in there somewhere

not doing great today

deadweight loss. deadweight loss as far as the eye can see. the triangle of uncountable tragedies

@repligate 'democracy of ghosts'

@TheStalwart insane

@TheStalwart sounds like it

@TheStalwart it's completely insulting

@ctjlewis i wonder why it's been on my mind recently

@Indian_Bronson you're smarter than this

if an alien civilization made first contact with me, first i would set up a free trade agreement with them.

@jdcmedlock just a constant stream of authoritative-sounding fucking nonsense all day all the time. i wish i didn't have to inhabit the same planet as fischer king 64

@Andr3jH But if you do answer, the source will be located right away. Your planet will be invaded by cheap goods and services.

@extradeadjcb it’s not and you know better

trump administration: vibe governing with chatgpt deep research maga “intellectual”: well if you read this paper actually this is about the lessons of the plaza accord and the de-dollarization doctrine, which will lead to https://x.com/TheStalwart/status/1907889419429818468

@bumbadum14 Ok and now your job will pay less and make all the rest of this even worse

@bumbadum14 Congrats

elon notably not posting any more milton friedman vibe reels

@NealAdvait @extradeadjcb he’s not an idiot or delusional. I’ve followed for a long time. it’s sad to see people selling out the bedrock of what they know to be true for ingroup loyalty credits

@extradeadjcb @NealAdvait of course but the winners and losers are both american. the cartoon would make more sense if this was some charity we performed for the third world

the truth of the matter of course is that mankind has always found aesthetic pleasure in the idea of its own destruction. the global flood mythological complex exists at least since the beginning of recorded civilization

"Humanity’s self-alienation has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order." walter benjamin wrote this regarding what he thought of as the utter state of technological alienation in *checks notes* 1935

everyone craves destruction. your cells crave apoptosis. whatever form of civilizational destruction you actually indulge in won't abate your desire for it

every day maga asks you to live in a level of unreality that would make the woke hr lady & ibram kendi blush and makes your wallet hurt more than they ever could. it's offensive

the only reason you would place country specific tariffs proportional to bilateral trade deficits if you were a mercantilist with a pre adam smith understanding of economics. it was never more complicated than that. it's not worth tying to your destiny to this

@Gias_Graccus stupid

@ThuleanFuturist zima blue vibes

@CosimoMorelli grew up there

@nearcyan post losses near

@datrearden @stillgray bro thinks chevys are made in the us

@eigenrobot i best not but i'll tell you it was a ~tenth of all images produced on a massive scale

i just think we should make twin peaks real

@hopes_revenge my god

We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had the reserve currency. We had a capital inflow. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, printed as much money as you ever needed and traded it for Nike shoes and iPhones built in other countries. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.

@kage_urufu no sir it’s you have no understanding of economics. external demand for china’s goods is upward pressure on the cny. when external demand falls (such as due to tariffs) cny falls. if there was some exogenous factor driving down the cny that could be good for chinese exports

@RichardHanania the all caps yes or no and shameless engagement farming - reeks of chatgpt involvement

it’s funny that people have to pretend chinese imports are cheap plastic trinkets like it’s the 90s as though we don’t import a dizzying array of complex consumer electronics, industrial machinery, even ai models

like jd vance going on tv and calling the chinese peasants - what year are you living in? the “cato the elder” political strategy works much better of course. their figs are too good and too powerful. Carthago delenda est.

they made twenty single nucleotide edits to a common grey wolf let’s not get ahead of ourselves https://x.com/SecretaryBurgum/status/1909345951069651032

ive never visited but if an alien visited earth knowing nothing about gdp per capita figures seems unclear whether they’d be more impressed by shanghai or new york

though I agree and am excited by de extinction in principle

@LinkofSunshine What about puts? is it just vol trading?

@real_lord_miles do you ever have a good time anywhere

@lsparrish this is not true due to just in time delivery! when you move a laser pointer across the moon it moves faster than the speed of light

@lsparrish information is more important than material

@moultano “capital deepening”

was stuxnet the worlds first sophon attack

@husainzaidi you’re goddamn right

@Return2Mimetic his followers like mf jd vance

neo mercantilism and its malcontents

@in_sight_ment history is alive but only in the mission district(s) of san francisco

@nikesharora is this parody account?

@JackieFielder_ it is. you should start by making sure the people on transit are paying

this follows almost the exact propositions and worldview of Friedrich List, the first of the neo-mercantilists who saw that Britannia wielded free trade as a weapon of empire. free trade for thee and protection for me

nascent states want access the techno industrial self accelerating crescendo. the East Asian tigers created explicitly export oriented industrial economies so that they could quickly climb the highest branches of tech tree, the high value industries

pricy dollars mean expensive and uncompetitive exports versus the rest of the world. and indeed the only places where america is competitive and profitable is the things only it can make: software, social networks, advanced ai, cars that drive themselves, rockets that land, etc

regardless the metaphor doesn’t apply to america which is not only at the top of the tech tree but continually invents new branches. the neo mercantilist intellectuals here mostly focus on two things, the foremost of which is the reserve currency status and the pricy dollar

there are downsides to this approach: japan and korea are still ruled by these initial state favored export enterprises. the zaibatsu and chaebol respectively. there doesn’t seem to be a great market dynamism in the American sense

there are obvious benefits to the reserve currency status such as cheap debt, and even more nicely, debt that gets cheaper during global recessions as global capital flees to US treasuries. the market for us treasury debt seems extremely deep

the plaza accord tried to correct this in 1985 by vastly devaluing the dollar with mixed success. closed the trade deficit for a handful of years and then more of the same. labor is cheaper elsewhere, comparative advantage is real

yarvin’s pitch for American neo-mercantilism basically asks - what is a country for? is it aesthetically more desirable to have cheap goods and services or everybody hard at work in the industrial base? the neoreaction likes to see people in darwinian hell, discipline, order, survival, etc

stephen miran etc claim that the trump tariffs are mostly incident on the producer country due to exchange rate fluctuation. if true, would be one of the strongest neo-mercantilist arguments I’ve seen. but he reasons from analogy from the 2017 Trump tariffs which were very small

it also seems true that Americans enjoy the cantillon effect. The Fed buys treasuries which become entitlements which become the near infinite purchasing power of the American consumer to buy foreign goods and services and it’s not clear how deep it goes

it’s an anti abundance agenda and I probably won’t see eye to eye with it. i see the magic of America as whatever feeling is encapsulated in Ferris Bueller’s day off - the almost rigorous pursuit of fun, always getting away with it. Doubling down on your monopolies

@04HM04 what a shame. I love Japan

@ancerj i think it's reasoning from analogy from the 20th century. modern prowess in warfare looks different than then. feels like a ridiculous Maoist throwback to reorient the economy around producing steel instead of like Anduril x OpenAI generally intelligent fighter killer drones

@deepfates @garrytan ok this one is actually fine tbh just mad at everything else

@eigenrobot @VoidAtoms i'm sure its not representative, most developing countries are like this extreme asymmetry in the speed of growth in the countryside vs the city but imo the measure of an 'advanced civilization' is not how its poorest live

@eigenrobot @VoidAtoms yeah it's actually kind of weird and speaks to control freak nature of communism, why aren't they allowed in the cities at this point

@TenreiroDaniel I gotta hand it to you there is something to this neo mercantilism

two of the core principles of stephen miran’s ‘mar a lago accord’ that exchange rates will make sure tariffs aren’t incident on Americans and that borrowing premiums on US treasuries due to the stable reserve status are minor are being disproven rn

dollar is falling USDCNY is flat and treasury yields are spiking. clearly there was a lot we were getting out of the status of the dollar

the david lynch interpretation of the bomb and oppenheimer movie’s interpretation of his guilt is wrong. it was lord krishna he saw at the trinity site in the nuclear hellfire. the immanent rage of the free world and a new Nomos of the Earth

atomic weaponry is on the side of the angels. when the atom was split in the white sands of new mexico, an unparalleled era of techno economic prosperity and peace among world powers was released

@sublimation_x yes. the end of war. conflict arises in the measurement of man to man, the assortative ranking of slave and master (in hegel’s terms). when everyone can press the doomsday button there is no need to

@sublimation_x consider a couple stably in love: both can destroy the other. neither chooses to as it would destroy themselves as well. it’s beautiful

@duongdesignco ?

@dlovera you misunderstood my post if you thought I was saying intellectual with a negative affect

@ArmandDoma you say libertarian like its a pejorative

@ArmandDoma there were ways to intervene to make sure consumers and businesses don’t lose their shirts while also letting the banks die. the end of creative destruction is pernicious and slow decay with up front wins. Dodd Frank is not the answer either, that just took the joy out of debt

@stacycay @xaosxrusotos if slaves are capital it makes perfect sense

@ChadNauseam @whyamihere206 @ArmandDoma yeah

@ArmandDoma just make sure the shareholders get zeroed somehow

i think the world should be somewhat more market oriented than it is now. almost every problem I see in my day to day life in San Francisco is downstream of not being libertarian enough. armand who’s bio proudly proclaims “YIMBYs for Harris” should agree. unlimited moral hazards for big banks is not good policy

@ChadNauseam @ArmandDoma Exactly i knew he’d get it

what level of infinite jest are we on https://x.com/NYGov/status/1910705478276952247

@Liv_Boeree sorry but I feel it’s deeply true and important for understanding the spirituality of technology

@Liv_Boeree seems one and the same to me!

@zermatist adobe suite has gotten significantly better since i was a kid

the three gorges dam bloodthirst posting is tasteless and also irrelevant. in post 1945 world any massive civilian casualty event between nuclear powers annihilates both countries

@longgege_god yeah i figured

@danfaggella dishonest headline. the models can natively write any story or generate any image. the question becomes where to draw the content line rather than teach it to optimally generate porn

@MWCrispyRoll @zermatist what I noticed is that the software got progressively easier to use, cloud based, but harder to pirate. but my plan costs like $8 a month? not bad at all

@chatgpt21 No

“Why—” Lyra began, and found her voice weak and trembling—“why can’t I read the alethiometer anymore? Why can’t I even do that? That was the one thing I could do really well, and it’s just not there anymore—it just vanished as if it had never come…” “You read it by grace,” said Xaphania, looking at her, “and you can regain it by work.” “How long will that take?” “A lifetime.”

@zebulgar huh seems like this roon guy was prescient and correctly predicted everything 🤠

it is morning in singapore

@SahilPunamia ok yes sir

@Indian_Bronson @LadiesOfReddit he’s not scoffing that’s just Rob’s style

@Miles_Brundage but full self driving is kinda here

@Miles_Brundage imo moravec’s paradox is philosophically wrong and learning math is no easier or harder than learning locomotion it just so happens that we can write down a lot of the output of symbolic reasoning but there’s no internet scale record of motor neuron activations

@Miles_Brundage ok sorry for ranting under your pun I just needed to get this out somewhere …

o3 is a beautiful model and im amazed talking to it and also relieved i still have the capacity for amazement

@LadiesOfReddit idk could be longer. im not quite as optimistic as the bay area orthodoxy. in particular reasoning/rl models seem to generalize much worse than humans in a lot of ways

@DarwinianVyas you guys don’t even know how good you have it. you are within two months of the bleeding edge of model capabilities at all times. there is no government or megacorp on earth with access to better models than you. internet idiots will never grant this to us but openai made ai open

it is evening in singapore

@MasterTimBlais 😔

it’s very odd to see an advanced civilization thriving on the equator in sweltering tropical heat feels far more natural to see thatched huts and concrete dhabas than these sophonic hotels overflowing with greenery. solarpunk alive and well in Singapore

there were 4 indo pak wars between the partition and 1998, some of which involved significant occupation of pakistan. after 1998 when both countries performed nuclear tests there was only the minor border skirmish at Kargil. nuclear weapons are great forces for world peace

@bratton reddit

@KeyTryer fan fiction very likely does not harm the market for the original so there are easy fair use arguments

@zxlava optimal policy in apac region is to sneak nukes to Taiwan

@shuppetnsudow @eigenrobot i don’t see it tbh

20% of world trade passes through Singapore. this seems kind of strange because it’s a high value island nation without heavy consumption or production of physical goods. and you can just pass the straits of malacca without stopping

but apparently singapore is a key hub for “trans shipment”. goods flow in from around the orient and the alien juggernaut of an automated port moves containers off ships and repackages the full manifest for final shipment in eg london or what have you

markets are a natural phenomenon, people build them as readily as beavers build dams. ‘free trade’ on the other hand is an anglo invention, from its origin only ever applied through the logic of empire

@Ryan_Murphy1 why

@Ryan_Murphy1 until adam smith, protectionism was the default standard of the world, every shitty princeling of every tiny hamlet applied taxes and trade barriers on merchants arriving at their gates. maybe you’re misreading my positive sentiment about anglos and their empire

@0x49fa98 ok sorry I knew i was copying it from somewhere but I forgot where

(i stole this phrase from a @0x49fa98 thread …)

@0x49fa98 nobody understood this is pro free trade

@signulll it’s not a good era for startups

@rajrkane ~200 died. in the first indo pak war 30,000 died