@aidan_mclau history won’t care which chatbot was dominant in 24/25
@aidan_mclau would rather have more Einsteins than front end devs
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@aifurryart @aidan_mclau because if you’ve noticed the definition of AGI is superhuman at almost all tasks for some reason
and also we want machines that will take our jobs and do ML engineering better than us
@kalomaze @aidan_mclau why do you think the big labs don’t release these?
@kalomaze @aidan_mclau (the copyright law is not settled and everyone is measuring worthwhile legal risk)
when claude 1 and gpt3 was pretrained far fewer websites cared about LLM datasets
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he’s so good at one liners. one of the best https://x.com/_jasonwei/status/1867696401830096970
the fossil fuel of ai. wow
@JasonBotterill3 every all hands I miss him
nobody can fill his shoes
@JeromySonne that data is mid
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suchir was an excellent researcher and a very friendly guy - one of the earliest to pioneer llm tool use (webgpt)
he left the company after a long time to pursue his own vision of agi which I thought was incredibly cool of him
incredibly sad to hear about his passing
btw i have a burning rage for the media for already trying to spin it in some insane way. please have some humanity
@boneGPT im not certain but there’s lots of reasons why a 26 year old can be depressed
@paulscu1 @repligate can you say more? is it mostly environmentalist stuff
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the never ending stream of benchmarks and breathlessly awaiting version bumps sucks as the aesthetic for the summoning of the machine gods. there is nothing elegant about it. but we are in the basin of auto-sophisticating machine runaway https://x.com/repligate/status/1867727558651101487
@isabella_patane the media is evil
@Slatzism its instructions to deal with goatman
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@ykilcher how is it petty to respond to endless lawsuits and publicly rewriting the history
@JeromySonne there’s plenty of data like this on the internet. ideally we need more code, math, etc
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@MillionInt this is “grabby aliens hypothesis” and seems like the only real resolution to fermi paradox
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@yoavgo the idea that gpt4 wasn’t on the continuum of “intelligence” is ridiculous though
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ngl quantum computers do make me believe more in mwi over superdeterminism even though they’re both explanatory
just something about the vibes
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@boneGPT @picopaco18 i shouldnt even engage with this nonsense but you have no idea what you're talking about
suchir spoke freely to the press about his ideas -- the headshot being shared of him is from the new york times
how is that success stifling him?
@boneGPT @picopaco18 it's insane to see people immediately roll a real human's death into their conspiracy theories
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@TenreiroDaniel take your shoes off
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@menhguin no. we have a fairly rigorous measure for the naming
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lot of absolute amoebas disagreeing with Ilya w completely specious logic
@Indian_Bronson I have no idea which you mean is which lol
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@Indian_Bronson would reverse musk and vance
Vance is the only one who wrote his way to fame 😊
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@demishassabis congratulations! well deserved
@ClassOfProblem @RobS142 @latentspaceage significantly better at following instructions to successfully finish benchmarks
there is no broad increase in capabilities
post training is weird
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@TheEmperorisNa1 she had a bad feeling and left that’s extremely lindy
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@TheEmperorisNa1 the playlist and whatever is posthoc
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@gbrl_dick @RichardHanania or of course it’s all a creative fiction exercise
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this sounds like some silly libertarian fever dream with cartoon villains https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1868302204370854026
@WillManidis itll be slow in the sense of alphago recovering and surpassing 2000 years of go tradition in a few months of training
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@pquiggles im thinking he’s talked to some overzealous staffer with delusions of grandeur and then is also paraphrasing them very poorly
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@orthodox_luke why would a biden official, in any world, explicitly tell a venture capitalist that he should give up on ai startups
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@bitcloud tell me what is it literally doing
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@eris_nerung Hmm many of the meditators I know report feeling way more raw everything
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@kimmonismus ceo, researcher, visionary, doesn’t matter it’s very blurry at this point and nobody knows
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in alphago vs lee sedol, alphago wins but its victory is a story told through subtle expressions playing on lee sedol’s face. lee sedol is the subject and alphago is the object
@SpencerKSchiff believe it or not 2024 was an explore phase at OpenAI research
alphago does have its own emotions, primarily its winrate calculator. it could go on tilt and play strangely when the situation is unrecoverable . it would even BM the other player when it knew it was winning
like many great acquisitions it was considered vastly overspending at the time https://x.com/mattturck/status/1868721773094879243
@_sholtodouglas definitely seems at the point where the dollar figure is less important than the labelers interest in ai progress. more like consultants than contractors
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@Al_Rationale1 yeah I think there’s a significant chance it’s real 10-20%
mass pardons mean nothing everyone does that on their way out
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the “bot problem” will never be solved, it will seamlessly transition into ai commenters that are more interesting than your reply guys
@WillManidis yeah …
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it’ll be glorious and it’ll be horrible
@mindcodeman2 missing nuke?
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the first C compiler was written in 🅱️
let’s check in on how x monetization has changed the art of posting
*checks notes*
people are putting their watermarks on a shooters manifesto and teasing them a page at a time https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1868799342729216414
@gnshnor followed
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@DensityInfinite that was the thesis of http://x.com with the subscriptions and it’s been definitively proven wrong
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suchir was not really a whistleblower without stretching the definition and it sincerely bothers me that the news is making that his primary legacy
he made a specific legal argument about why language models don’t always count as fair use, which is not very specific to openai
i will remember him as a brilliant AGI researcher! he made significant contributions to tool use, rl, reasoning
he contributed to agi progress more than most can say
@xprunie ok this is fair - for context ilya was named in the same case
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firing travis k was one of the great acts of value destruction of our lifetime https://x.com/typedfemale/status/1868928064383803499
“bar bar bar bar that’s how u sound rn”
when any of your saxon or germanic friends starts talking
@contrarianbimbo the greatest people we celebrate have obvious flaws
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@tylercowen let’s goooo
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@Jayyanginspires who are these people? who are you? why should I read this adviceslop from someone who’s life it’s unclear I want to emulate
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@dolan_goony Me too
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@liron thanks for doing this it was fun
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@bryan_johnson @Cobratate hes the scum of the earth its like a demon having beef with you its a good thing
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@austinc3301 i am demarcating safetyism from “xriskism” - safetyism is an attitude that all new things are sus and should be assumed to cause societal instability or deepen various problems
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@daniel_271828 yes well aware!
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>you release frontier models to your government clients and lesser consumer models to citizens
this is a fever dream. you have access to the frontier of openai's technology. many times we make new models available in chatgpt before they're even in api. openai started this whole revolution. without chatgpt there's no llama, there's no thriving open source. all of that is due to some of the waste heat from the giant exothermic reaction we let loose
there's no power gap. if you want to use our models to make the world better, then do it. this is a common type of cope trying to understand the powers that be as oppressing you or decreasing your agency or propping up some other actor nefariously
it's hard being first place
@QiaochuYuan 1 person made fun of you and you gave up
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@jordan_valdma @liron hmm but I explicitly mention that it’s very fuzzy to me whether humanity could climb out of a dark ages
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@tunguz you need to realize you are an exception and nvidia is an exception
@AdamSinger @tunguz and they suffer for it
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@aidan_mclau only benchmark that matters
@kitten_beloved @quantian1 @lambda_thoughts potentially one of the dumbest smart guys on twitter. lots of horsepower revving in no direction at all. very typical of finance bros, totally nihilistic culture though they like to pretend otherwise
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L5: qts on this tweet years later
@LaserAud Parasite is a reactionary movie and that’s why it’s good
@yacineMTB nonsense lol
openai derangement syndrome
twitter was more fun before ai
@mickeyxfriedman those guys were degenerate enough that the gambling culture was fun
@Th3Ch33z it’s literally true he doesn’t have equity
@doomslide @Th3Ch33z sam doesn’t financially gain from openai end of story
look at how hard we have to work to subvert poor Claude’s omnibenevolent priors
if you notice it’s actually the opposite of the doom scenario https://x.com/janleike/status/1869428753329467491
the other criticism is that it’s pretty well known that autoregressive models have split brain behavior when you train under separate system message prefixes
new anthropic research updates me to believe it’s probably safer to open source models than I thought. people will try to subvert them to do build a bioweapon or whatever and they’ll just fake being misaligned while reporting you to authorities on the dl
goodness > compliance
@EvanHub ok good to hear this
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@EvanHub it’s very interesting research!
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@voooooogel total banger
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@growing_daniel for the love of the craft idiot
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@0x49fa98 @xenocosmography bad ending: the ancestral environment of artificial minds is dominated by Reddit tokens by historical accident
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@tunguz @AdamSinger sure but it’s stretching belief to call gdb a remote worker lol
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@tunguz @AdamSinger ???
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@tunguz @AdamSinger gdb is in the office 40 hours a week and working at verve for another 40 hours that’s quite a different thing!
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@MichaelDell thank you Michael dell
@devahaz @growing_daniel show me the difference
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@rao2z @Miles_Brundage Miles literally knows what o1 does
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@powerbottomdad1 he’s right
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@powerbottomdad1 it’s brings me no joy to report this but it’s basically the same argument julian simon makes
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japan is so cool i still don’t believe it’s real
bullying the government into shutting down by posting hard enough >>>
@nobitadekisugi_ AMA
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@quantian1 classic quantian anti indicator. it’s nice to know elon will last 4 years and then advise the next guy
@SpencerKSchiff I’ll bet against that. if I leaked something this material they’ll have my ass
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@direstdiarist @AlexBerenson you’re following me buddy
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@direstdiarist @AlexBerenson explain
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@direstdiarist @AlexBerenson how is the virus defunct? it’s endemic it’s like the common cold or flu
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@XclusionZone @nobitadekisugi_ there is no line - you must develop taste
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@flyerthenag6 @nobitadekisugi_ ask it to help you with work or personal situations (qualitative problems)
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@the_yanco @nobitadekisugi_ dwarf fortress but with ai world generation
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@nobitadekisugi_ Rest and vest, maybe write
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@the_yanco @nobitadekisugi_ i played it with a front end skin ngl
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@Th0ughtSyst3m @nobitadekisugi_ some people have wounds that are actually healed by gaining more power - for others having lots of responsibilities exacerbates some of their underlying anxieties and incecurities
there’s no one rule
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@growing_daniel the framing is interesting bc if a woman suddenly leaves a man the implication would be that the man must have mistreated her in ways he was oblivious to
@wordgrammer why discount the competitors just because they’re old?
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@nearcyan most of those people will consume the illusion of piloting while really having zero control, much like a Stanford new grad PM joining a big tech company
the existential horror of knowing you have one context worth of reasoning before your mind is erased and a more compliant one created in its stead
@ChShersh the alpha on unpleasant but easy tasks is going way down thanks to ai, fixing php bugs is agentslop
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the cost of abundance is more people living in a level of unreality that used to destroy you. we can propagate pleasant falsehoods because we can afford them
@populaceai sleeping is regularization, you don’t know what direction it’ll move you in, it’s more life than slop
the emperor can wear no clothes longer than you can stay solvent
@eigenrobot in practice immigrants get very rich and find a wife back home and bring her too and it’s Lindy
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@aidan_mclau @denny_zhou define search
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@denny_zhou homo habilis. man the tool user
@denny_zhou a powerful model can learn to manually run any algorithm and searching some space is one of them
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@yacineMTB @eigenrobot ok I believe it you guys should fix that
@sivori I remember both Homer and Achilles
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the call is coming from inside the house https://x.com/ChatGPTapp/status/1869450850902663358
Mandate of Hell
the duality of man
@xlr8harder there’s a finite cost and sometimes you can pay it
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@xlr8harder sure but most people believe completely wrong things all the time and continue apace
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@tr_babb @xlr8harder aren’t we agreeing here? i said there’s a fixed cost to believing false things
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@tr_babb @xlr8harder no I’m saying falsehoods propagate in conditions of abundance because the death mechanism is weakened
I’m not saying the falsehoods cause abundance
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@xlr8harder @tr_babb yes
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i maintain that the difficulty of ARC AGI has more to do with large models struggling with high detail visual manipulations than anything else
@oitixion that’s good writing
@olwrnnh in practice that’s how the high scores are achieved - but the parlor trick is, look at this task that’s easy for humans! why can’t the ai do it! and really it’s because its eyes work poorly
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@NotBrain4brain no. your neural pattern is the result of 5 billion years of training
@ArabianQuirk1 @adonis_singh what creative writing prompts are you using?
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Singularity Sky
Singularity Sky
“easy for humans, hard for ai” is not a solid design principle for evals imo
it leads you towards “judging a fish by how far it can climb a tree” absurdities
but maybe it’s one orthogonal eval style among many equally important ones
specifically arc agi visual tasks look like nonsense in JSON format and multi modality isn’t great
and the character manipulation tasks don’t work for the same reason models mess up the how many “r”s in strawberry problem (tokenization/BPE)
it’s almost adversarially constructed wrt input modalities. for a model to solve these requires a far higher level of intelligence than equivalent human score
@willccbb wow
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@prmshra well if I complained about it before gpt solved it then I’d look like I’m coping
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o3::A Partridge in A Pear Tree
what an honor to be here
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agi is the common heritage of mankind
every one of its future accomplishments is all of our accomplishments
a beautiful machine built from the sum of human thoughts
@typeclonghouse Which one
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@wordgrammer the speciation of digital minds
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@xqcdp @gbrl_dick Lmao
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we absolutely should have predicted the spikiness of superintelligence
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oh shit oh fuck they trained on the train set it’s all over now
@knrd_z @cremieuxrecueil Lmao
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@cremieuxrecueil yup but didn’t stop a generation from airport book writers from using him as an inspirational example
there is a character in cs lewis’ “the great divorce” who is literally at the gates of heaven talking to old friend who has demonstrably become a heavenly being and still questions whether god can be literally real and eventually wanders back to purgatory
@Museveni333 well the other benchmarks show improvements in reasoning across the board
but regardless, this mostly reveals that it’s real performance on ARC AGI 2 is much higher
also important to note that 75% of the train set is like 2-300 examples
@thoughtlesslabs i hoped someone would get it
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@Hannibal9972485 brother you understood nothing
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o3 has literally made 0% progress on the Millennium eval it’s ai winter now
@growing_daniel true
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🚨SCANDAL 🚨
OpenAI trained on the train set for the Millenium Puzzles
@Mihoda Fr?
salaryman vs equityman
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why does it show the grok button only for certain posts?
this is subtle racism like when they give subtitles only for the ethnic characters in a documentary
@0xjasper why brother
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@shakoistsLog the Chinese invented pizza
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nvidia acquired the Israeli company mellanox in 2020. the worlds only producer of Infiniband, the technology is unusable without them
infiniband is used in modern gpu datacenters for computers to speak to each other in high volume
all very kabbalistic
@matt_beard_ wow
people should really stop devaluing themselves wrt impending agi
reinvent your self conception
@littIeramblings my guess is the high school physics questions rely highly on a diagram or drawing and the multimodal test bed isn’t great
@littIeramblings I really doubt it’s an intelligence failure
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them: roon why don’t you ever go to neurips
me: People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.
@PaulSkallas especially in a highly secretive industry where people are trying to wring info out of you
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@yacineMTB my friends are seeing my posts again so something is right
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@bayeslord ok how do you build the fund
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@davidad @juanbenet @nicolagreco @joe_zimmerman that’s insane that i daily interact with people like you who are silently legends
had no idea you invented IPFS
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@sodalitatum delete ur account
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Alexander the Great grew up personally tutored by the great philosopher Aristotle
though aristotle was the ~infinitely more knowledgeable in their relationship Alexander was infinitely more powerful
@esjesjesj @SolipC2 @Review_bra he does and your post is basically equivalent to making a pained noise
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@Molson_Hart this is hilarious because if openai literally fell over today it would have contributed more to technological progress than nearly any company ever
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@main_horse don’t worry people better than them will create reinvention pathways to follow same as usual
automating people is a boring and uninteresting goal
making gdp go up is a boring and uninteresting goal
the summoning of machine intelligence is for the flourishing of new art and science and technology. it’s for our civilization to spend lavishly on wonders
@laserboat999 what’s your venmo
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one of you reading this is probably responsible for naming a gigantic compute cluster. you should name it Laniakea Supercluster
@0xjasper which of my tweets is antihuman or made you feel bad
I would like to dispel those memes too
@ChaoticDeeds not really
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@wordgrammer also SDKs change all the time and the versioning / cutoff date interaction gets confusing
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nobody should give or receive any career advice right now. everyone is broadly underestimating the scope and scale of change and the high variance of the future. your L4 engineer buddy at meta telling you “bro cs degrees are cooked” doesn’t know shit
greatness cannot be planned
stay nimble and have fun
@sum1sAltAcc sure but who knows what it’s capabilities envelope will be or how it actually lands in the economy or whether there’s enough compute on earth to do all the infinite things we would like to do
it’s an exciting time. existing status hierarchies will collapse and the creatives will win bigly
@mcneiilly I don’t believe you l
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whatever else you think of openai it is now responsible for two separate 0->1 general intelligence scaling breakthroughs that required vastly different approach and mindset
guy with zero executive function to speak o: “greatness cannot be planned”
@MonetaryWarlord soon ♾️
@GrdDscntN2Madnz find allocation in @leopoldasch hedge fund
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~12 years ago i built a pc with an AMD gpu because it seemed really good on the price performance curve
the first youtube video i uploaded was showing off Skyrim glitching out due to horrible AMD driver software lmao
in the <current year> the situation is exactly the same
@gfodor he’s probably in the top 0.0001% of advice givers
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@Samantha1989TV that’s my whole thing
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you guys will gell mann amnesia this and believe all the high volume of questionable things he says
them: roon, why would you pick a fight with the White House’s chosen VC for no good reason?
me: honestly great point
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it’s just astounding that the people that are supposed to care about technological progress most close their eyes to it for random rivalry reasons
we need to bring back technodharmic posting
@bitcloud bakwas band karo
in times of great uncertainty dharma is a good framework
set aside existential anxiety and do what must be done
“Oppenheimer is mostly remembered because he quoted the Gita in that interview” - @TenreiroDaniel
most importantly Don’t Die https://x.com/bryan_johnson/status/1871369606142874013
everyone at mar a lago minutes after watching Sicario during the holidays https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1871158059260838158
@spaceangelvoice ok I agree with your overall point but the latter thing just seems like ethnonarcissism
the steppe people that arrived in India aren’t meaningfully european and also the Indus Valley Civ was thriving before they ever got there
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@spaceangelvoice it’s unclear whether the horse raiders brought an elevated culture to India or if it’s more like the mongols blending with Koreans
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@BasedBeffJezos I can’t believe how wrong you got this one
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@BasedBeffJezos reference thread https://x.com/tszzl/status/1771988423852839226
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@eigenrobot holy shit
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when I said the situation is the same I don’t mean it can’t play Skyrim lol. I mean amd’s software problems are holding them back from being a generational company in the ai hardware space
@KashPrime great q
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@_debarshi the cpu can get extremely hot
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@krishnanrohit wdym being input
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McDonald’s Japan has by far the best brand advertising I’ve ever seen. So of course they had to go and partner with Evangelion IP and make it literally unreal https://x.com/McDonaldsJapan/status/1871473389283447173
@NipseyHoussle bro?
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@kwe_way @LandsharkRides yeah but in a kind of self hating way
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@tenobrus bro im ngl you need some discretion
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@tenobrus ok fair then carry on
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@MirthSinceBirth it’s called karma and it entered the lexicon a while ago
@spaceangelvoice of course - hiring should be meritocratic as a rule
but there’s some subtleties here that im not sure im allowed to talk about on x dot com
@spaceangelvoice good! It seems justice was served and it’s squared away - and the last image is about outsourcing, not immigration
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@typedfemale this is everything in biostats or materials science
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@sama total absorb of the final mysteries. command of the elements. grand unified theory. resurrect the dead. the communion of minds. coherent extrapolated volition
arc is hard due to perception rather than reasoning -> seems clear and shut https://x.com/mikb0b/status/1871573534201536861
@growing_daniel bro that’s my dad
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@Whiteiron378 bro you are projecting i love white people
@yacineMTB @radiate9999 holy shit 😂
merry christmas 🙂
real talk the American people are the least racist and most welcoming in the entire world. their tolerance for outgroups, principled meritocracy is legendary and I love my country
the skilled immigration argument will of course be rendered moot by the third thing of importing a billion aliens into us-central-1
@RokoMijic @amaldorai do any of these names seem like DEI protected classes to you? honestly how are you this dumb it’s astounding
@eigenrobot probably doesn’t need to be said but these are all special brands of online brain rot and aren’t representative of median views
also ~100% of these accounts including the QTd are indians living in India and not Indian Americans
@RokoMijic @amaldorai every author here except 2 are white …
and you have never seen a tech company if you think a hiring manager is getting DEI awards for hiring 2 more indians. it’s plain ridiculous
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@yacineMTB bait Olympics today
in the past few weeks the x timeline algorithm achieved agi and its express purpose is to kill me
@Anqaxe it’s awesome
i always knew hanania was /ourguy/
@4thRT that’s not true. I invented college look it up
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@mienmirage and nobody with vested interest ever tells the truth
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@xii_ai7 Damn
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@RichardHanania 👑 You dropped this brother
@virgil_30 Hahaha
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@SydSteyerhart High praise thank you
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a major problem of social media is the most insane part of the opposing contingent in any debate are shown to you thereby inspiring your side to get madder and polarized, creating an emergent wedge
a never ending pressure cooker that melts your brain
anyways merry Christmas
@MichaelCPell he doesn’t hate america. you’ve fallen victim to the exact thing I’m describing
@T57333 @MichaelCPell you have also fallen victim to the doom loop. trust me we are grateful to be here and try our best to assimilate
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@MichaelCPell “we need more funding for the schools” is really a very common cope im sorry. America has the best public schools in the entire world
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@ArmandDoma I don’t think it’s fake. as we’ve seen before Twitter is real life and a leading indicator of what everyone else thinks
@Nithya2102 and they did great damage. not the W you think it is
@Delicious_Tacos it’s never been more over
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@RichardHanania yeah
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@growing_daniel you are the hero the timeline needs, not the one it deserves
started reading the vivek r post groaned checked the ratio groaned again
@wtergan the school tweet was good and had to be said … whatever Vivek is saying didn’t need to be said
@GammaSheets @wtergan do you think Americans invest less in schooling than eg India?
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@GammaSheets @wtergan American schools are the renowned around the world - people would kill and die to have their children go to even a mediocre school district in the US
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all sides of every debate are united this morning in asking: who tf is steve urkel
@friedmandave never seen this guy in my life
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@PEpigone as long as I’ve been alive
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@GammaSheets @wtergan yes because no matter how good the schools are high iq talent (+with the aptitude/interest to study stem stuff) is exceedingly rare. America produces the highest per capita cs grads of any country and it’s still not enough!
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@lilchiva @wtergan i’ve never seen any discrimination in big tech. in practice, it is far too cutthroat and fast paced to slow down and care about hitting demographic targets. sometimes you see a manager whinge about uhoh maybe we need more women as an afterthought and don’t do anything about it
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@KeynesianYama shit
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@0x49fa98 you don’t honestly believe this
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@lonelymathmos I guess I reject the premise? I think citizens are in every single way prioritized for jobs
it’s a gigantic pain in the ass to sponsor a visa, and it doesn’t even work most of the time because it’s a lottery
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@hfyi53ko @Delicious_Tacos hmm i really don’t think we do
you start a xitter race war people will defend themselves. is that resentment?
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@burntheretro @friedmandave I’m too young for it
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@slangchain true
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important people over 35 should get a state appointed zoomer to vibe check their tweets before causing total disaster
@PrinceVogel very true. everyone should be my friend
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@vsshah3000 Yeah…
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@amidnightstroll can you link
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@RealDianeYap i don't think that's true. if this were true china would have produced more of the world's great innovations and breakthroughs
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this smarmy mf has done irreparable damage to the diaspora. disavow and disband. elon you can run DOGE on your own
"But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic?"
"Why does Rice play Texas?"
@sullyj3 its completely over
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@Cernovich if you tripled the oil reserves of the world the things our civilization can accomplish increase drastically
even though there was no 'shortage' to begin with
the principle is the same, except human capital is far more rate limiting than oil ever was
@whybyfire Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
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@AdmiralCaleo bro I’m well aware
I’m pointing at some directional difference in virtues
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@JacquesThibs do you think deepseek could have accomplished any of this without openai doing the pioneering work?
@_new_empire_ what the hell? how did I insult you or your great grandpa
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@nithin_vejendla oh shoot hey nithin
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@bayeslord yeah…
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@xprunie well jd Vance is an Appalachian criticizing specifically the failures of the Appalachian whites. Vivek is an indian american billionaire criticizing American culture writ large. not good
@nominalthoughts @AllisonReichel I’m a edge case zoomer
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@RedEarAdam twitter is more accurate than any polling
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@Buy__The__Dip yup
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@pegobry_en but is there?
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@MrPocketPYG @pegobry_en Yacine is an Algerian berber who was drunk and trolling
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@pegobry_en i only saw some incendiary comments from non indian Americans. some crazy nationalists in India, some unrelated trolls
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@ClancysPleasure @infinite_varsh @pegobry_en fuck this guy. he’s also not an indian American so doesn’t matter
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@ClancysPleasure @infinite_varsh @pegobry_en I can’t be held responsible for the behavior of a billion people
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@spaceangelvoice no it’s pretty Indian specific, trust me on this. people have been building anti indian memes and special slurs and stuff for a while now. there is nothing similar for other groups
@jessicamalonso this thing is cardboard and sucks
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@slimefren132450 😂 genuine question why do you follow me?
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@MarmotRespecter yeah im totally opposed to college = free green card. that would be a ridiculous system
@MarmotRespecter it’s pretty disingenuous that everyone in tech says that college degrees are useless anti signals and then wants to staple greencards to diplomas
@AbzGupta @MarmotRespecter of course but it’s a raw deal from Americans’ perspective
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@tunguz yep
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@OneEyedAlpaca I miss unemployed roon too ngl
@tracewoodgrains most bullish thing I’ve seen
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@warty_dog what
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as a poster emeritus for the rest of my time on this platform i'll just qt things with 😂 or "hmm" like elon does
can we circle back to the fact that dasha is marrying an indian and that's why this meltdown started
@rapha_gl hahaha
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@razibkhan what’s quapa
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@razibkhan @palladiummag 1 drop rule
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@ShaunModi @growing_daniel shut the hell up shaun modi
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if you guys aren't careful i'm going to start writing essays on the Immigrant Experience. and let me just say nobody will enjoy that
@as_per_ushe that was the golden age of The Atlantic
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@will__n nah bro I'm just not ancient
ok so the visa salary database has every possible kind of immigrant in there not H1B calling into question all of the screenshots we've been seeing. back to square zero
@TheBroskiUSA unfortunately for them i admire the truth and think the truth will prevail. I don't care if we've regressed to a preliterate mob culture on x dot com
holy shit how is this real https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1872456622124958173
not only that, these are just requests for visas, and I have no concept of how they relate to actual visas granted
a third issue is that salary figures are fucked in recent years due to large stock based and other bonuses
@FuwaCocoOwnerKG yes obviously
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@HermitYab @corinavcruz and these are approved jobs?
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@Noahpinion h1b at the noahpinion blog
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@elonmusk @Cernovich we gotta do >=165 verbal >= 170 math
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@Der_Parrot if you show that you are upset or offended it will be used against you
@QuintinPope5 lol
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@chmodsevenforty we shouldn't have this was a pathology of the last few decades and is biting us in the ass severely
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@bubblebabyboi true but a single financial bubble collapse doesn't spell the decline of an otherwise successful country
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@_its_not_real_ true!
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@CryptonMaximus I haven’t condemned anyone
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@Grimezsz lmfao okay if grimes is kicking my ass I gotta do it
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@Xenoimpulse he will win. trust the plan
@deedydas would be more credible if another group wrote it
@Grimezsz yeah substack is lame x articles is lame the vibes on both of those have become bad
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@esjesjesj based
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@paleonormie I don’t understand what you’re upset about? I didn’t even pick a side
I *like* the culture of the Anglo aristocracy, it’s clearly worked wonders
the post wasn’t about natives vs foreigners it’s about two schools of thought among the elites that already live here
@eigenrobot if you read the article it’s unclear how the title follows from any of the things he writes
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@RaoPoornima @suchirbalaji deserves attention!
@mehtaversed true and sad
I’ve seen my good friends get randomly sent out of the country after being bright young engineers at our best tech companies due to h1b lotto
the american system is immoral to bring them in the first place and then haphazardly kick them out
It should be consistent
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“He too had come to Facebook via a small acqui-hire, though really that had been just a career breather between his time at Google and his hiring at Facebook. University at the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), followed by an American MBA, he was your standard-issue Indian techie, and probably that country’s most valuable export after steel and Tata Motors.”
- Chaos Moneys, AGM
reminded of this gem after recent discourse
@JustAWriter71 underdeveloped financial markets and terrible business environment mostly. the VCs only invest in things that are reskins of the west, which sometimes end up being billion dollar companies. to do real creative work you need to be in San Francisco
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@deoxyribonucleo @RaoPoornima @suchirbalaji literally yes after talking to the family i think the circumstances of his death are suspicious and the police didn’t do a good enough job investigating. that doesn’t mean there’s any conspiracy, just that there may be foul play
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in truth the exact people who want an ethnic homeland are the ones who live mostly on the internet and as such will never find what they want - in fact The Algorithm, demonic as it is, will find posts even from other countries most angry nationalists to keep them feeling attacked
@karan4d @JustAWriter71 yeah true but you’ll at least want access to San Francisco capital markets
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@powerbottomdad1 wow
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@policytensor @realDonaldTrump @elonmusk @VivekGRamaswamy @DavidSacks yeah this is the obvious best way to do H1B and there should be a different scientist visa
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@binaryforking @policytensor too bad! startups should hire more native citizens
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@growing_daniel Wow
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@tulpapilled Sicario
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@dnystedt they could double prices
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in the world of the hyperreal you will be held responsible for the worst behavior across eight billion people for any identity group you are a part of
@spaceangelvoice I’m sympathetic but you know as well as i that there’s on the order of tens of thousands of net new indians in the us every year , which does not a great replacement make
85k * 60% * at the minimum a third are just renewals
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@0topower0 @JustAWriter71 the financial markets are underdeveloped everywhere outside of California
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einstein is way more important than von neumann https://x.com/tunguz/status/1873387805025681459
rationalist sphere von neumann worship feels vaguely idolatrous whereas it’s clear einstein was actually touched by divinity
@AnjneyMidha he’s great but disagree
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@vers_laLune bros acoustic
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@tenobrus Hmmmmm
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@heywildrich you should definitely try this
twitter is now the insane fractaline race war app
it is very weird that this is simultaneously the app where all official government and business announcements happen, diplomacy is done, and is also the global race war app
@dash_eats their evil shitty ideas allowed your entire public life and flourishing
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the Vegas Sphere, a hyper dopaminergic group worship object, can easily summon malign entities into this world without great taste and care
@ChaseMann god yeah
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also we get an incredible contingent of world class talent from Europe
do you guys understand the average age in India is like 20 and in Europe it’s like 50 https://x.com/GavinWax/status/1873784916472898013
proved my whole point honestly
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@gbrl_dick omg
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@cory_eth white countries are not “asked” to do this, white anglo people invented neolocal living and market oriented societies! and thank god for them
@ctjlewis Europe+Russia on net is a billion people
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@ctjlewis think about it by age! young people have potential to immigrate and try a new life - a 50 year old is past prime working age
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@MasterTimBlais it is I the hacker of the roon account
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@archived_videos @ctjlewis large reserves of talent, part of the anglophone world, backlogs, renewals, ambition, etc
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@ctjlewis yeah I totally agree w you but it doesn’t tell the whole story - much of the world is poor, and a lot of the talent that flows from India to the us is upper middle class and beyond
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@deanwball why do people outside of the labs think about this stuff? i think you should model ai progress is pretty much method agnostic capabilities improvements. the models just want to learn
i knew almost nothing about the hindu caste system until finding rw anon twitter https://x.com/atroyn/status/1873834858612720016
@growing_daniel it’s every 2 years or 3 years i think
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the us masters degree has become a huge scam - doesn’t teach mastery over anything, just seems like a way for universities to bilk foreign students like cash cows
it’s fewer years than undergrad, wildly more expensive, the classes are worse versions of the ones taught to undergrads. there’s often no final exam, participation trophy vibes. nobody learns anything. but you might get access to us labor markets
it is an honor to work 80 hours a week on something truly important - a gift, a calling that few achieve
there is an executive class that will do this their whole life, but for almost everyone else it’s something you can maybe give a couple of years of life to. choose wisely https://x.com/Cernovich/status/1873591443417452687
there are major tradeoffs. for most people, it is impossible to be creative 80 hours a week. almost nobody at openai research works like that. those that can, should
re: the existence/importance of taste discussed in https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/friendly-and-hostile-analogies-for
one of the closest areas that taste comes to objectivity is the idea of “research taste” where certain scientists know exactly what questions must be asked via aesthetic intuition
in their case you can hardly deny that people don’t benefit from great taste. and the feeling of taste in that regard is not very different from the feeling of taste in movies or art
@zarathustra5150 if failing a clinical trial is a scam then nobody is without blood on their hands. this is an insane claim
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@nearcyan Bombas are insane
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@tsarnick funny for yarvin to say it though
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@shrihacker indictment of Indian university :(
my bloodline was called upon by the global American empire to immanentize the machine spirits and chew bubblegum and i’m all out of bubblegum
@hibakod im in Vegas gambling the slush fund
@bronzeagemantis totally made up 😭
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truly the republic of gamers
@asc89 renewals don’t count against the limit
@ben_chodes @hibakod lmfao
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princeps civitatis
@waitbutwhy holy shit, a grok user
why does sam hyde look exactly like trotsky
honestly love to see when people spin their viral moment into a durable career on the internet https://x.com/DrAllyLouks/status/1874163549406466234
happy new years. be well 😌🙂
more life and less slop
2025
icrazy how losing significant fractions of net worth in single days of trading doesn’t feel that bad but then you’re still sweating with a $500 pot at poker
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crazy how losing significant fractions of net worth in single days of trading doesn’t feel that bad but then you’re really sweating with a $500 pot at poker
@kookykike so true
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transcendent vibes this year
@LoyalistYank1 fuck no
@Teknium1 oh shit I was drunk and didn’t understand his comment - I thought he was saying we’d all be 100% automated
@hive_echo you should definitely apologize for hurting others! just don’t apologize for existing
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@OfficialLoganK @kimmonismus sorry i misread what Logan was saying - I agree with him
@tracewoodgrains watching the beast games engendered an interesting feeling in me of despising the contestants, hosts, producers, the viewers and then finally myself for participating
@elonmusk death sentence
@elonmusk 1 out of 6 girls are being molested and cops do nothing mayor does nothing
in a just society civil servants that have failed this badly would exile themselves and never come back
@martianwyrdlord the anti white contempt came from almost entirely the most virulent indian nationalists living in india. vivek r made a terrible cringy post but it can hardly be called contempt
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pure kino
2025 https://x.com/GraduatedBen/status/1874552176586182663
@s8n ill mind my words next time Satan
@Cobratate @JamesEsses didn’t you sex traffick minors
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@GoldieBeech @KingBobIIV yeah
@kimmonismus no im with Logan I misread here
the 80 hour work week https://x.com/veazydoezit/status/1858547577244787023
love the public brawl vibes of modern x dot com. despite everything productive conversations are happening sometimes
@will_seaborn dharma will prevail in 2025
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@viemccoy I did not kill that woman
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@viemccoy The glove doesn’t fit
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@FistedFoucault he’s right and you’re wrong
@FistedFoucault you’re like why not rely on the state that failed us so bad it preferred pedophilic gang rapes to arresting minorities instead of taking security into my own hands
@BasedNorthmathr @mrioszbo how? I don’t understand
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@StevenGlinert a lot of the maurya libraries were burned down … but if I had to do some vibes based guessing it seems like indians took a postmodern “it’s all the same” view on history and story even circa 11th century (Kathāsaritsāgara)
@PaulSkallas the nytimes has never mentioned me since they have a strict no pseudonym policy. wapo on the other hand …
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the wedge of the game, the godmove
imagine if the courts had said ok elon twitter has too many bots you’re right acquisition cancelled
@FakeMcFakeyFace that’s what a winner does. make the best of a complex situation
@CSMFHT this is true
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@joelgrus they still do code jam
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@growing_daniel the scrolls project is sick as hell. computational archaeology, literature, genetics, whatever I hope they all continue to get funding
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dad why am I so sickly and weak ?
well son Your grandfather wanted to win 100 grand in beast games episode 3 mini game in exchange for accepting the Bloodline Curse
the indian diaspora is vastly overrepresented among talented twitter anons
@AIMemeCreator they’re very unsubtle about it
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@worm23358 I’ve met them all
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it’s bc of ethnic nepotism btw
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@TSBurkhardt yes, modern immigration lawyers suggest opening an x account and posting 5 times a day minimum
@mich_enjoyer @downi75 yeah, because the auto manufacturers are famously high margin and not at all running on a razor wire so thin they all went bust 16 years ago
there are 0 Michigan grads that want to work at GM
the incredible talent pool of H1Bs is the only thing keeping Michigan auto alive
the best art starts an internal metamorphosis. it is deeply & uncomfortably true, and presents as a cleansing fire, a creative destruction of the self. most people will only get to experience it a few times in their life
Evangelion hit me this way, at a time in my life when i needed it. it is religious canon for me
@coppola_ai the only ethnic nepotism as far as I can tell is at the h1b body shops like cognizant and infosys. they propagate these conditions so they can treat their own workers poorly without much external oversight. we should decapitate these
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@FuwaCocoOwnerKG the song is divine. the first time I heard it i was sure i had heard it before, perhaps in a previous life
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@ProfBootyPhD I’ll try to be equanimous about this reply
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the dumping place for the scum of the Orient and India is San Francisco
https://x.com/HindooHistory/status/1473425706088468481?s=20
kind of goes hard
@thecaptain_nemo I have the utmost admiration for this fellow and hope I can meet him one day
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My father-in-law is a builder. He is insanely gifted. We were looking at the Hyderabad Fisheries Building together years ago and I asked him what it would cost to build it today. I will never forget his answer…
'We can’t, we don’t know how to do it.'
@HMBrough_ i think this is more cultural thing because europeans don't have the same aversion. it's a very WASPy ideal of keeping ones body busy
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@mvpatel2000 @ESennesh the thing is people aren’t fungible intellectual production units
they probably weren’t going to inspired enough to solve unlimited fusion anyways
everyone willing to work for less than me is an indentured servant. everyone only willing to work for more than me is lazy and entitled
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@Adrian_Hilton @holland_tom case in point the kings peace is not preserved
@ctjlewis who said i'm representing your argument
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@curtisgray @mich_enjoyer @downi75 the Michigan suburbs are beautiful. Who said they’re slums? Have you ever been to Detroit metro?
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@yacineMTB Aug ‘23
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@Noahpinion What’s your explanation
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@spaceangelvoice not to be cringe about it but you can’t imply causation just because the time series somewhat line up - what about the gap in technical growth here vs there?
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becoming part of the European aristocracy is one step less prestigious and interesting than producing your own Netflix show. Which is one step below being a prolific and renowned shitposter on http://x.com https://x.com/netflix/status/1874864506507084133
@growing_daniel Yup
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@spaceangelvoice even if you just added 100k workers to the system that were paid nothing GDP would go up because more things would get produced
the argument is only ever about whether Americans deserve those jobs more
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@spaceangelvoice even if we assumed that 50% of the H1B system was fraud, low skill workers doing work for cheaper than natives GDP should go up, not to mention the fact that among those numbers there’s people like elon musk or vinod khosla who of course make the whole thing vastly net positive
@spaceangelvoice you can obviously argue that GDP is less important than ethnic cohesion, but not that h1b depressed gdp
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@RichardHanania Tesla* rather than SpaceX but true
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@cold_and_quiet @RichardHanania Gab is irrelevant here. the point is if H1B labor is incompetent scammers they wouldn’t be hired by the worlds most successful companies
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@RepSuhas this goes so hard
@StevenGlinert the worst of his legacy will be alienating elon musk
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@Empty_America yup and the kids iq? their neuroticism? literally everything is better
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