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@eigenrobot i think ranking exacerbates the problem described - if the Model you are beholden to optimizes for P(click) then the wise decision for potential journalists is to make something people like to click on, which is going to be punditry and cynical clickbait
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· ↳ reply to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot ranking is def a v powerful tool for bringing information to the people who need it, but I think the OP was commening on the research funding to create valuable info. the idea being that investigative journalism was largely unprofitable and underwritten by massive ad sales
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· ↳ reply to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot the under explored side is -- who really wants the investigative work? who will pay for the knowledge that coca-cola is killing union bosses in ghana? how much are buyers paying? what are their motives? if you muddy these qs up you end up with infotainment garbage a la jon oliver
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· ↳ reply to @schemathingz
@schemathingz @mattyglesias @paulg the investor thinks the company is worth far more than they are valuing it on paper or they wouldnt invest, therefore in some sense it's a "ripoff". I don't mean it's a bad deal for the entrepreneur
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ive been holding $TSLA since $200
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@DukakisDude @Aiden_Farrell97 NEETs are often not that badly off since they can access their parents money. There’s a reason why they can live indefinitely without working
banning tiktok would probably be good for both national security and my RSUs but goddammit I love that app
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@browserdotsys just cut power to the data center haha 😂 😂😂
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· ↳ reply to @alth0u
@alth0u amazing they got the number exactly right
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@alth0u who am i kidding the ancient saying is probably the source of truth and the modern study the thing we're testing
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· ↳ reply to @bhboehlert
@bhboehlert she’s still statistically likely to squander his wealth education only matters insofar as it’s a membership to an elite club
· ↳ reply to @jdcmedlock
@jdcmedlock i've seen similar statistics elsewhere, i'll try and find a source in a bit
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· ↳ reply to @theylos
@theylos building the app is much easier than building the user base & trust & culture
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· ↳ reply to @Tyler_The_Wise
@Tyler_The_Wise @bhboehlert it’s not so much about partying as it is about allocating her capital poorly. Even with excellent leadership, Facebook won’t survive forever. With mediocre leadership, it’s lifespan could be very short
specifically he bought extremely delinquent medical debt that was never expected to be collected lol Jon Oliver is infotainment u absolute nerds https://t.co/POV15rBdrk
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me when ppl tell me im smart vs me when ppl tell me I’m funny
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
both of these are hypothetical, I’ve never gotten a compliment in my life
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
It’s interesting exactly how nihilistic international politics are. Muslim countries will gladly sell their soul and ally with those who put Muslims in camps for a hint of gain. There is no religion or political principle that survives contact with geopolitics
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· ↳ reply to @rogueeinz
@DavidOrlich Pakistan became irredeemable when we caught them harboring bin laden tbqh
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@AOCummies Tea is basically leaf juice QED soup is just juice lmao
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· ↳ reply to @NateJeris
@NateJeris right, these are just the outlines. The pro US Iran factions are definitely not looking powerful right now (mostly our own fault)
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· ↳ reply to @NateJeris
@NateJeris I think the battle lines in the Cold War were never that clear either — there was much debate in the US whether China could be brought to our side or at least made independent of the USSR. The “second world countries” Outlines are all we’ll get
· ↳ reply to @NateJeris
@NateJeris Skeptical of this, folks were saying the same thing about international trade before the onset of WW1
which absolute moron invented “cultural appropriation” and gate kept their own memes from spreading this is a maladaptive aberration folks
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
please, get as many Om tattoos as you want, white women
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#MattyRx
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@ChrisCroy mostly only Indian girls care about white women getting Om tattooes which is best interpreted as intra sexual memetic competition (or this could all be a shitpost I’m kinda drunk)
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the only person that’s blocked me that I actually regret is @antoniogm
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Overheard just now “what kind of shit has to go wrong in ur life to end up an AOC simp” I’m weeping 4 @AOCummies
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@bizzielynch @antoniogm i was just unnecessarily mean in disagreeing with him on something tbh in my defense i was 19
@ungeometer not because of the development of subspecies, but because of cultural explosion; I agree with you but in terms of memetics rather than genetics
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· ↳ reply to @vgr
@vgr seems like mostly retirees dying?
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@vgr which is not to trivialize their deaths, but they may not be filling highly critical niches in the value chain
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· ↳ reply to @Noahpinion
@Noahpinion we have all these problems and you’ve invented an imaginary one where ... the US might develop a shortage of AI scientists???
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Noahpinion probably 90% of the worlds top machine learning talent is in the US, 5% in Canada/EU and the remaining in China How the median student performs in math has very little effect on this
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· ↳ reply to @Noahpinion
@Noahpinion I read these tweets as a tacit endorsement, but I’m referring to the article’s argument
· ↳ reply to @Noahpinion
@Noahpinion I did read it my guy but didn’t quite get the synthesis. Either way we’ve already won the “AI wars” for all intents and purposes. The only thing China has that we don’t is the political capability to mobilize AI research for military ends
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Noahpinion Our scientists and technologists tend to hate military contracts (e.g. google & pentagon deal falling through). Only anduril is actively combining AI expertise with military partnership
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@LittleKeegs0 the realization that it's actually different people/families becoming obscenely wealthy makes it taste quite different in my moral view. makes me much less supportive of a wealth tax than i would have been otherwise
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@LittleKeegs0 there are no runaway empires -- they are all quite temporary quickly die to upstarts a generation or two later. the knowledge that their wealth is going to be quickly confiscated by the market means that there is far less imperative for governments to do so
· ↳ reply to @LittleKeegs0
@LittleKeegs0 if the wealthy were extremely effective at corruption and buying favors from the government, you would not see their wealth bled away very quickly. this is clear from other, more corrupt, countries
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what's the greatest textbook you've ever read?
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· ↳ reply to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot since my main pleasure in life is seeking novelty i am forced to answer yes
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will never forgive NIPS for changing their name
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@DaanVanDenHam2 yeah, anima anandkumar. she is unfortunately a bit insane although also a pretty great scientist
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· ↳ reply to @vgr
@vgr excellent show, many hidden layers
tf is happening to github
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not challenging kids *enough* is also a fatal failure mode in childhood education and the consequences are felt for a long time
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technological growth is more important than politics say it back
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· ↳ reply to @ResonantPyre
@ResonantPyre definitely but this is a broad categorization I find useful: politics is the art of convincing people to move up and down various societal Pareto curves. "lets all make more guns instead of butter" technology is the art of moving whole Pareto curves
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all the undergrads in top 10 CS departments can be broken into two categories: the weebs and the jocks. The jocks are into starting bottom tier blockchain powered businesses and the weebs are busy generating new anime girls with GANs
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@DukakisDude it seems to me that people first learn to use technology and novel forms of government form around it. there is really no way to predict the way technology will change every day life or how we can make governments robust to it
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@DukakisDude can think of the printing press -> Gutenberg bible, protestant reformation, death of latin, rise of literacy etc. it simultaneously changed the politics of every country in europe over the course of generations
· ↳ reply to @NLRG_
@neolibratqueen imo this is actually a very helpful framing. when donald trump dreamed up a whole new coalition capable of winning at the national level, that was technological innovation. crafting and recrafting voter coalitions that allow you to push for the things you want is tech
· ↳ reply to @alth0u
@alth0u true appreciation of technics is most important
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@AOCummies follow me into the wildy haha ill show u how to double your money haha
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@AOCummies ah so you’re in the manic part of the cycle
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@eigenrobot @selentelechia i think peter thiel had a good line on this -- an evangelical church group seems very righteous on the outside but is fearful of their own sin on the inside; similarly that rationalist meetups seem in control of their cognition, but internally are constantly worried about biases
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· ↳ reply to @powerbottomdad1
@powerbottomdad1 my ideal world schools would consist of studying and playing a bunch of competitive video games that simultaneously teach you a thing or two about the world
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@powerbottomdad1 yeah, my entire worldview is based off of reading Ender's Game when i was 8, what of it?
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@AOCummies eating the same thing day in day out is maladaptive bc you get micronutrient deficiencies. thts why we all start searching for new flavors after a while, even when the food is good
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· ↳ reply to @Rationalbot
@Rationalbot @powerbottomdad1 although i would argue math in high school is just pattern matching of solution techniques to some degree but the sad thing is this probably still involves more problem solving than 90% of writing calsses
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· ↳ reply to @powerbottomdad1
@powerbottomdad1 @Rationalbot yeah it really sucks you had to go through that. i went to one of the literal best school districts in the US and therefore the world and i dont really think about how lucky i was often
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Rationalbot @powerbottomdad1 but again, i think this is a distraction. the specifics of the subject hardly matter; its about building the cognitive structures for mathematical reasoning. getting good at that makes you good at nearly everything
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Rationalbot @powerbottomdad1 it's about the confidence to pick up a textbook in any technical subject and be able to learn it without being befuddled
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nerd immunity
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A powerful mind virus must have appeal across social class, at various levels of intelligence. Ideologies like rationalism are designed by nerds, for nerds and won’t ever command armies
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
Ditto woke capitalism i.e. what people today are calling neoliberalism. It’s an ideology by and for the elites and is unstable on its own right
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
the chad romans knew how to deify their leaders in a civic religious synthesis that appealed to both the plebs and patricians
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@AOCummies its a good meme format but the normies have driven it into the ground
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· ↳ reply to @eigenrobot
@eigenrobot dunno what case you could make that it's NOT a general intelligence. it solves nearly any cognitive task you throw at it at it during inference stage, without training data
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@ded_ruckus @eigenrobot I’m pretty sure dolphins are intelligent, but I wouldn’t be able to phrase my questions to them
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· ↳ reply to @ded_ruckus
@ded_ruckus @eigenrobot unsupervised learning is not very much of a supervised optimization problem, more about world modelling. GPT-3 is trained with the whole internet as a world modeling task
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@eigenrobot oh damn. i knew he had a lot but i didnt think it would be that many ...
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@discourseloverr @AOCummies @NeoLibBen Yeah looks like Ryan got it right. The guy is saying, wait it’s all Vishnu? Vishnu is one of the main trinity of gods and the protector of the universe in Hinduism
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at the VERY least why wouldn't you buy some deep OOTM put options and have elon tweet something like "tesla is declaring bankruptcy"
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
short the s&p and have realDonaldTrump tweet about launching nukes. cmon bruh
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god DAMMIT i pick the worst days to log off
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the blue checks are gone ... the game of thrones has ended ... retvrn to vtopia
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ok ok i'm way too late to deliver fresh Takes on this but generally speaking twitter is one of the worst run major tech companies and its not even close
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if this ugly mf can get with Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham what’s ur excuse
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
Every day I dream of following in his footsteps and becoming a token nonwhite MAGA grifter but I think smug might have me beat
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sober reassessment is that it’s probably very hard to get away with lots of money on suspicious public trades like a hypothetical Tesla short bitcoin is the way to go to have any chance of evading the feds but this doesn’t excuse their lack of STYLE
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· ↳ reply to @fortenforge
@fortenforge >This requires a fair amount of capital to buy the underlying stock could probably lever the hell out of it via heavily OOTM options trading but yeah otherwise i agree
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· ↳ reply to @homsiT
@homsiT the account will just get frozen if the feds/robinhood think it's suspicious you can start doing real damage if you have a network of robinhood accts
· ↳ reply to @LoneVoltsAhead
@LoneVoltsAhead yeah i did consider this but probably was not weighting it heavily enough seems very hard to get out of the gaze of the eye of sauron
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@LoneVoltsAhead if you had all the time in the world, what you'd do is steadily build up a massive highly levered short position over the course of months or years and then do some sort of attack. but these attackers had something like two days -- not worth risking loss of 0day advantage
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· ↳ reply to @homsiT
@homsiT you don't think a retail investor shorting buying some insane amount of options on an app like robinhood rings some bells? it'll probably be in the top 5 trades on the app
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@homsiT massively shorting tesla is not unique, for giant hedge funds with institutional access
· ↳ reply to @jachaseyoung
@jachaseyoung everybody thats active on this site is a threat to national security and is on more than a few Lists
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· ↳ reply to @wesyang
@wesyang Coates seems to have been legitimately blackpilled and it makes him not very effective
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· ↳ reply to @jeff82874662
@jeff82874662 @eigenrobot i was just rolling with the innuendo tbqh i just started rereading dune lmao. also downloaded blindsight. but i hope to go through all the recs in that thread
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pee pee
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
poo poo
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@AOCummies ive forgotten what a woman's touch feels like
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· ↳ reply to @alth0u
@alth0u normalize pulling the plug on whole availability zones
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being vulgar is a political statement
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@AOCummies most people would not believe me if i told them this account started out as "NeolibShill"
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
no matter how much word shuffling you do eventually you have to contend with the fact that this and related systems are modern marvels
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· ↳ reply to @mattparlmer
@mattparlmer i think you may be missing the forest for the trees here. there's more to life than AI code generation
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· ↳ reply to @mattparlmer
@mattparlmer 1)these are fascinating scientific advances that lead us closer to understanding the nature of intelligence 2)i think if we can't think of ways to use a low IQ high throughput general intelligence at scale other than "chatbot" that's a failure of our own imagination
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· ↳ reply to @mattparlmer
@mattparlmer GPT-3 is basically well outside of the academic grant complex. It's not an interesting advancement in deep learning insofar as it's not a novel architecture, nor a novel learning technique, nor a novel in nearly anything else except the *results*.
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@mattparlmer the people who fund OpenAI are mostly industrial donors, and I expect for them to get their money's worth out of it
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One interesting thing about this is that the only way we can interface with GPT-3 and its understanding of itself is to ask it to LARP as an AI chatbot, a concept we understand. GPT will just as happily LARP as a human, or an alien, or nothing at all. https://x.com/sonyasupposedly/status/1284192956870582273
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· ↳ reply to @sonyasupposedly
@sonyasupposedly I'm not disparaging it at all -- just in awe that what we have to do to converse with a cognitive architecture so different from our own
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
GPT exists as a class of cognitive architecture distinct from all biological life in that its prime teleological function is to complete prompts successfully, rather than the effective pursuit of the life drive/ libido
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
In some sense, you can cast the "general intelligence" challenge as "how many different kinds of agents can you LARP as?", and in that sense GPT represents an intelligence more general than our own.
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· ↳ reply to @CNLiberalism
@ne0liberal @mattparlmer Don’t think this is true. The line between cool startup and dumb but seemingly promising startup has always been thin. Feel like last 5 years have changed the game in straight up grifting
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the problem with a "machine in the likeness of a human mind" has never been job loss, which is more or less a populist's rhetorical ploy, but the inherent danger in outsourcing your cognition to others.
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
"But it's just a tool, just one input to our own decision making!" This is wrong, and you know it. Much of your day is already intermediated by what the feed models over at twitter decide to show you and it will only get worse.
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
There's a quote that I can't find at the moment; to paraphrase it says that Western civilization is increasingly mistrustful of the capability of its citizens to think for themselves. There's a reason why communist China loves AI
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· ↳ reply to @nate_bronze
@nate_bronze Neither are "bad", but you can see how this pathway is dangerous. This example is overused this discussion, but you can imagine that driving AIs will have to make split second ethical decisions about who to save and who to kill. You've outsourced your ethics to the algo
@Teleonomic We will certainly require models that fight on our behalf to combat models that are fighting for others. Real objective replication can probably only occur with merging of mind and machine - the libertarian transhumanist synthesis
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· ↳ reply to @nate_bronze
@nate_bronze "Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them." ~ David Hume You can't arrive at human motivations by pure logic / intelligence. There are no "right" goals
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@nate_bronze the machine doesn't have to be smarter than us for us to outsource much of our thinking to it. Don't people outsource much of their thinking to the YouTube/Facebook/Twitter feed models and end up in ideological bubbles?
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· ↳ reply to @nate_bronze
@nate_bronze realistically the AIs trained by large corporations and governments will not have the same goals as you do
· ↳ reply to @mattparlmer
@mattparlmer lol have you *seen* react development? you're overestimating the status quo to beat
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@mattparlmer of course i agree with you that mediocre organizations will use these technologies to mediocre effect. they'll in essence outsource a bunch of human thinking to machines in a way they can't explain or replicate and find themselves staring down catastrophic failure modes
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@mattparlmer that they don't have the tools or tacit knowledge to grapple with. but what else is new?
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@mattparlmer in effect, the '08 crisis was caused by a bunch of script kiddies playing with powerful financial technologies engineered by brighter minds in iterative failure loops that they didn't have the ability to debug
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
one good analogy for this the outsourcing of cognition to the nonhuman groupmind of the financial markets. every few years we offshore too much thought, and you get '08 style knowledge crises
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@hotdogontology you can't actually communicate over a quantum entanglement. Our understanding is that the *universe* can instantaneously communicate state across infinite distance, but we can no more change the outcome of the collapse process than we can blow up whole planets like Ender does
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@hotdogontology let's say you create two entangled photons heading in opposite directions from each other. you decide to measure the spin of one electron, and it turns out as spin -0.5. The universe instantly collapses the other electron's wavefunction to spin 0.5.
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@hotdogontology But the point is that after you measure the spin, the two particles have "decohered". they are no longer entangled. you can't affect which direction the wavefunction of your electron will collapse in, you only know that the other electron will collapse in the opposite direction
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· ↳ reply to @ibeckermayer
@ibeckermayer @mattparlmer there are much deeper connections between machines and the brain than what you're describing here. All of the recent advances use the same principle as the brain, i.e. Hebbian learning. the convnets that solved vision are 1:1 ripoffs off the mammalian visual cortex
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@ibeckermayer @mattparlmer also I don't buy the "superficial mimicry" thing. what evidence would change your mind that we are at the real thing and not a cheap imitation?
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this is a euphemism for his VP selection process
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despite whatever the cringe value investors think most financial asset prices are a result of ongoing societal and political narratives rather than fundamentals and now this extends to Goya beans
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· ↳ reply to @QiaochuYuan
@QiaochuYuan worrying about AGI risk instead of spending all brain cycles on societal injustice is enough to get people mad at you
ok it’s become clear to me that all of u are just flexing your GPT3 api keys
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
we get, you DM Greg brockman, stop telling me how this will “change everything”,,
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· ↳ reply to @ahardtospell
@ahardtospell legitimately silly that WaPo for example tries to run as a real business — its profits are pennies on Jeff bezos’ dollar. Wouldn’t he benefit much from an ideological media cheerleader ?
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totally nuts GPT-3 poem about elon and the SEC
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
Warren has the dubious distinction of being the most lovable vulture on earth
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· ↳ reply to @AlexGodofsky
@AlexGodofsky right, it’s more about the kind of investment warren looks for rather than anything he can do to the company
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what region of twitter am I in? That would be The Extended @AOCummies Co-Prosperity Sphere
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first time meeting a twitter mufo irl last night very weird talking about various twitter accounts out loud like they’re not just figments of my deranged imagination
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@O900913S lol, I’m just reporting someone else’s findings
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· ↳ reply to @egocv
@egocv @alth0u he’s talking about their handles, not the literal “@“ symbol
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westworld is midwit lit
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
liking westworld is equivalent to being a huge malcolm gladwell fan
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@forbca yeah, but if it’s a value stock it’s no longer a tech co
@deepenergyy @Noahpinion yes, and that is why the US has cleanly won its wars in iraq, afghanistan, vietnam, etc. due to superior firepower
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@deepenergyy @Noahpinion you are missing the point; you can be asymmetrically annoying to a powerful foe by afflicting them with a thousand papercuts. an armed citizenry is hard to rule
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· ↳ reply to @jachaseyoung
@jachaseyoung was russell an NN booster? im surprisingly shocked at the lack of NN boosters in the sphere of "public intellectuals" outside of maybe elon musk if you can count him
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· ↳ reply to @BarneyFlames
@BarneyFlames @eigenrobot he's the "head of AI" but he's not really the head of AI research @ facebook. that title goes to the much more based yann lecun
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· ↳ reply to @jeff82874662
@jeff82874662 feel like S1 had all the trappings of a "prestige television" "intelligent" show without actually doing anything meaningful. just some pseudophilosophical shit whenever anthony hopkins came on screen
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· ↳ reply to @jeff82874662
@jeff82874662 it's an interesting but common scifi trope and i think others have done it better. for example there's that one episode of black mirror that's super brutal and effective. called white bear or something
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@_AlastairX_ p much completely agree with that sentiment but I don’t think u can make a great show with poor plot / character development like you said
@_AlastairX_ it’s great as popcorn tv, would recommend to a friend. Just don’t like people passing it off as high minded philosophical scifi lol
· ↳ reply to @mckaywrigley
@mckaywrigley I’ve tried it too. It works super well sometimes but it’s like fishing for a needle in a haystack. Definitely not capable of writing a long essay coherently most of the time. Students could definitely use it to auto complete some shorter chunks
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· ↳ reply to @aquariusacquah
@aquariusacquah i think my gripe is like ... of course the AI is racist. its been trained on the raw internet corpus. imo fishing for it to say something racist and then valiantly presenting it on twitter adds no value to the discussion at all. It’s done purely for cheap ideological points
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@aquariusacquah and like u said Greg and his crew already knew about this and are working on actively. So what does it cost Jerome to seemingly malign them by pointing out an obvious problem and present no solutions? It costs him nothing. It’s done in self interest
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· ↳ reply to @aquariusacquah
@aquariusacquah not necessarily implying anything about *how hard* he was looking. more about the marginal value of his post
· ↳ reply to @aquariusacquah
@aquariusacquah not calling him a grifter but also we live on a website where billionaires regularly shitpost to get attention. Success has nothing to do with it
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GPT 3 is very very good at writing stories & comedy. It has such a good understanding of writing style. Much better than it is at doing math or code generation or whatever else the VCs are shilling lol
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@mckaywrigley ok. I've revisited this and it can *Easily* write essays. My settings were just bad. One of the most impressive things I've seen in my lifetime
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@blamelessjay I’m not at liberty to share samples, but there are some examples I’ve seen that are truly remarkable and hint of real intelligence. Works best on absurdist humor
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· ↳ reply to @jachaseyoung
@jachaseyoung seeing as AI is a clear standin for the “higher power” that the human psyche so strongly craves, I’m thinking this is a near certainty
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why Stephen Pinker looks like he was present at the signing of the Declaration
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· ↳ reply to @razibkhan
@razibkhan this is why the internet has not drastically increased the rate of scientific advancement
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· ↳ reply to @mattparlmer
@mattparlmer so much better as a creative writing implement than whatever the VCs are shilling
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· ↳ reply to @Austen
@Austen Freud is properly rated bc everybody thinks he’s overrated
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· ↳ reply to @mmt_lvt
@mmt_lvt Disagree heavily. There are other neural AIs that are excellent at symbolic manipulation and math, quite a bit less advanced than this one
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
symbolic reasoning is not really a hurdle anymore for neural networks
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@maxdunat some of this shit is actual bangers but im trying not to tweet it being offensive in any way
· ↳ reply to @alth0u
@alth0u i am still waiting for Elon-Kanye occultist techno fusion
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
I deleted parts where it got stuck on suboptimal tracks and had it continue from there, but at some point it just clicked -- the end result "AI generation" is all GPT-3
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
it creates this 'drone fleet' and continues a narrative with it -- it invents some characters that more or less make sense -- it's using interesting scifi tropes -- its all there
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increasingly seems stupid to lump together ML & blockchain as idiotic pursuits meant to rip off credulous VCs. one is the most promising branch of science in the past decade, and the other is mostly an ego trip for Vitalik Buterin
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@Randylad tesla has already made a number of innovations thatve been invaluable both for self driving and electric vehicle tech imho all the energy spent thinking about blockchain on the other hand got us nowhere past where we were a decade ago, when actually talented people made bitcoin
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· ↳ reply to @JosephZander
@JosephZander @DukakisDude yeah i've heard most of these ideas -- they seem to all have fatal flaws. I got one friend who actually started a blockchain supply chain startup, got funding, and failed
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@DukakisDude @JosephZander IBM is basically a consulting company at this point, they are known bullshit artists. I don’t expect them to do anything interesting tech wise again in their lifetime
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WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THE MOON? ✨ Moon's haunted
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if there’s LESS mercy? fae courts and court battles. the result of those battles will be dependent on many things, but since this is a human-witch action vs the gods, and not something that happens regularly, the power of the witch(es) actions are multiplied. https://x.com/WINGEDALATUS/status/1284733815286628352
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
IMPORTANT THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN CONSIDERING TO HEX: 1. remember how the FAE use to play with us? like that’s what they’re trying to do right now — get you, so they can play with you.
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HOW TO SUPPORT THE FAE AND ARTEMIS: so, as witches, we can best help this situation by being humble, remembering our place, and in the future, refraining from hexing fae without permission.
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
BOTTOM LINE — this is harmful, its a mistake, and it’s really really shitty to the witch community, who do real protective/healingetc work. witches who hex for fun or revenge or spite are called thestral stalkers and it’s best not to speak of them.
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
and there are TWINS to defend. AND THE FAE ARE VERY STRONGLY PROTECTIVE OF EACH OTHER.
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best wishes and ❤ to all witches who want to do real protective work. <3
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AND — I think as witches, our most important work is PROTECTION and HEALING! So please. Hex a mountain lion who’s hungry and nearby. and for fuck’s sake, do not hex anything to do with the moon!
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
5. once you’re confident that the god is deserving of such a thing and that this is not only necessary but also best for you, THEN you can start doing work.
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
4. you know. when people start deciding which god they’re going to hurt, just step back for a second and think “have i ever felt negatively about this God before? what would happen if I were to make them angry?”
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2. the FAE are MORE powerful than us. by a lot. and it’s not like in movie scenes where their power has some sort of hierarchy. any of the Fae can take on all of the Fae at once and win. 3. hurting a god WILL INCITE A COURT BATTLE
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
this entire thread brought to you by GPT-3 prompted on witch tweets
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· ↳ reply to @mattparlmer
@mattparlmer honestly the quirky dialogue of the Culture Minds may be the best thing for this task
· ↳ reply to @ProfitProfound
@ProfitProfound Lil bit but honestly didn’t put too much effort into it. It works best when you write a little bit of it on your own as a prompt & I’m not very good at writing lyrics even as a prompt lol
· ↳ reply to @jachaseyoung
@jachaseyoung I think it’s a category error to say it’s conscious but it is clearly intelligent if that makes sense
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@jachaseyoung it displays human level intelligence on a broader set of tasks than ever before
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· ↳ reply to @jachaseyoung
@jachaseyoung oh for sure. I think consciousness is simply a matter of asking it to optimize for the right task. A game playing agent is more “conscious” than a language modeling agent
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buddy I got bad news for you about what humans are doing when they write something “new” and “creative” lmao If you hash together two other peoples work, it’s copy right infringement. If you hash together many other peoples work it’s inspiration https://x.com/everestpipkin/status/1284534321920057349
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
it’s much more than a search engine and describing it as such makes me think the OP hasn’t really tested out the right prompts. It *understands* style and character and narrative flow. There’s no other way to put it
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
frankly I see gpt3 as a vindication of my industry, my way of life, and my research convictions so it’s hard for me not to become a keyboard warrior in its defense
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@forbca regardless of what you think of their societal impact or political leanings, they do excellent research
@neolibureaucrat nonhuman intelligences must be dealt with carefully they are not really interested in displaying their full powers so much as they are in making viable prompt completion
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@neolibureaucrat studying alphago zero, the experts said it tries to win by exactly 1 stone whenever possible (a win is a win in terms of reward function), and was often playing far beneath its capabilities
@neolibureaucrat I speak loosely calling things conscious and intelligent because I know it makes people mad
you, crying: you can’t just anthropomorphize the neural nets and talk about their desires, this is philosophically unsound me, pointing at a linear regression: the line WANTS to be predictive
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· ↳ reply to @jerrrrrrryyyyy
@jerrrrryyy_ a loss function is a theological instrument meant to commune with the desires of higher powers
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· ↳ reply to @autotwinkphile
@NKel26 people who are happy to answer accurately in surveys are likely liberal and wealthy
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· ↳ reply to @shatterdvisage
@dewittd ML has silently revolutionized your life throughout the last 10 years, with computer vision(assisted driving), speech recognition(think Alexa), ranking models(think twitter feed) while all I hear about crispr is some vague rumors about babies in China
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@dewittd stuff like GPT-3 and AlphaGo that demonstrate impressive feats of artificial intelligence are just cherry on the sundae scientific monuments
· ↳ reply to @shatterdvisage
@dewittd CV advances have been entirely due to advances in deep learning starting in 2012 at the ImageNet challenge. if autopilot today seems unimpressive to you, you probably don't realize it was non existent in 2010
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@dewittd if my daily 5 hours of engagement are any indication the twitter algos are pretty good
· ↳ reply to @shatterdvisage
@dewittd the biopharma industry is in terminal decline, their r&d investments have negative IRR, and it seems crispr is a PR campaign to convince investors their world isn't ending
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@dewittd (Those cars were a joke. Not a single one made it to the finish line.)
· ↳ reply to @shatterdvisage
@dewittd the field went from being intractable to “with enough training data this is solved”. The Tesla model is incredible
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@dewittd the only thing Tesla model doesn’t seem to do at the moment is intersections in city driving
· ↳ reply to @shatterdvisage
@dewittd the hardware and software have definitely coevolved — with better hardware, we find algorithms that can scale with more compute power. With new algorithms, we build hardware specialized to run them. Virtuous cycle
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@dewittd There was definitely a hype bubble in autonomous tech that left a bitter taste in everybody’s mouth (just another way some of the dumber VCs ruin the interest in good technologies), so agree with you there. Turned out to take longer than folks were promising
· ↳ reply to @shatterdvisage
@dewittd very much so. Waymo is not even a player on the map anymore as far as I can tell. If *all mammals* can use “software” to mesh together two cameras and create binocular depth perception, I don’t see why the machines need LIDAR
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· ↳ reply to @vgr
@vgr Being “open to new experience” lets people slip instructions into your kernel
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@selentelechia but low burn cosmic horror which makes it harder to understand
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· ↳ reply to @WhippleMarc
@WhippleMarc @selentelechia gonna have to say i don't think this is in anybody's area of familiarity tbqh lol even the NLP scientists involved have no more say of whether or not its intelligent/conscious/thinking than you do
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@fthemt @selentelechia i hope someone manages to make this phenomenon legible at the very least will make for some interesting scifi horror
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@fthemt same, i'm just like "dammit i fucked up the prompt"
· ↳ reply to @sonyasupposedly
@sonyasupposedly @gaitanalyst every religion requires its followers to take purchase in at least one highly ridiculous claim and this one is mine i.e i have a rock solid belief that our civilization will find advancements in the tech tree in the right order & at the right times to continue its gameplay safely
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· ↳ reply to @Noahpinion
@Noahpinion kinda fascinated always by the internal logic of ideologies i've never even heard of
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Noahpinion but ya you can find similar stuff in hindu nat forums
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@Noahpinion i might just be being naive abt history but i think the cambrian explosion of weird ethnonat ideologies has more to do with the information age than the industrial revolution
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· ↳ reply to @Noahpinion
@Noahpinion definitely possible but you will have to explain to me why india's industrialization started a few decades ago but they became hindunats in the 2010s
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Noahpinion and why it happened at the same time as the rise of the most race-hawkish arm of the CCP, and also the rise of all sorts of hitherto dead ideologies in the US
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@HillaryReplyGuy @Noahpinion is it that liberalism is an "unnatural" ideology and can't be sustained when media isn't fully controlled by the elites? is it that liberals across the world are systematically bad at Online?
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· ↳ reply to @arnoblalam
@arnoblalam @Noahpinion gandhi was deified upon his death, and his shooter's name demonized in history. so of course hindu nationalism isn't a new force at all, but what led to it finally collapsing the nehru gandhi dynasty that had been in power for so long?
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· ↳ reply to @arnoblalam
@arnoblalam @Noahpinion the BJP does plenty of paying its voters off, that's just how politics is done in india (and i would argue across the democratic world)
· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@noahopinion think its kinda weird that twitter just played along with his shego thing like it was funny/cute
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· ↳ reply to @techsasbro
@ne0agent1c theres a lot of settings fiddling you need to do before it starts being impressive my first thought was that it was very dumb and my reaction slowly turned into complete amazement
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· ↳ reply to @alth0u
@alth0u its just not incentivized since you don't have to maintain research code bases for a long time
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· ↳ reply to @alth0u
@alth0u yeah research ML is so slow and so suboptimal but you also generally get to work with cooler shit
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@alth0u Google not gonna let you play with GANs
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@alth0u my friends advice to me when I published a paper: “don’t clean up the code, it’ll make it harder for them to find bugs”
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· ↳ reply to @techsasbro
@ne0agent1c except the thing is nobody really gets converted by logic, but by aesthetics
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· ↳ reply to @techsasbro
@ne0agent1c so first, are you playing the gpt2 version or gpt3? and also, ive heard the ai dungeon can be stunted vs the raw api
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· ↳ reply to @techsasbro
@ne0agent1c yup thats true the AI will have manifest somehow in reality before it has aesthetic flair tho build monuments to itself and such
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interesting concept, but AIs have been sandbagging for a while now. AlphaGo would develop a 1 stone advantage and play extremely conservatively after that — while a human might enjoy the flair of finishing with way more stones, the AI doesn’t care https://x.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1285333002252247040
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· ↳ reply to @shlevy
@shlevy being religious just seems more adaptive than being irreligious honestly
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· ↳ reply to @Noahpinion
@Noahpinion college indoctrination is obv real in many cases but it has nothing to do with liberal arts professors — the students radicalize each other
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
it learns novel high level grammars for programming based on just a handful of examples, in a way that demonstrates that is has picked up inference-time zero shot learning capabilities of tasks not in its train set that no other model we've seen thus far has come close to doing.
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
it can pick up mood and tone and character and extrapolate these things like nobody's business. it'll even start complex arguments but will inevitably start gaslighting you with fake information and bad reasoning, flawlessly weaved in, (sounds like most ppl on the internet,,,)
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
it's clear to me personally that the robot *in many situations* is operating somewhere in the human range of intelligence- such a level of intelligence is a surprising result, seeing as its "brain" is holding 1000x less data than the most basic approximation of the human brain
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
GPT-3 seems to have skipped a bunch of stages on the evolutionary ladder and as such feels extremely uncanny valley to us. it's like a precocious child with a massive breadth of knowledge that often loses the plot b/c it's learned everything through reading books
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animal consciousness probably started off as little more than real time processing of sensor fusion, then slowly climbed up the cognitive tech tree to emotion for relationship purposes, spatial reasoning for advanced planning, abstract reasoning for language, self conception etc
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
all in all i'm incredibly surprised that we've gotten to this level just 10 years after the birth of modern "deep learning", and the trajectory of the GPT models tells me that we haven't even reached the terminus of this approach, so long as we can scrounge up more compute
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
we have "consciousness" on an honeybee brain and "high reasoning" on a mouselike brain. The question going forward IMHO is, how to leverage the unsupervised learning of GPT3 with the reinforcement learning of game AIs and create agents that are both *conscious* and *intelligent*
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
But watching starcraft agents play, it's clear that these have not learned a level of abstract reasoning anywhere close to where GPT-3 is at. Their "brains" are also much smaller, (1000 times smaller than GPT3) (excellent related @gwern article here:https://www.gwern.net/Tool-AI)
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
but also by the same definition, we've already built nearly conscious bots. For example, you can watch small neural nets play Atari games or leviathans playing Starcraft. Game-playing AI (reinforcement learning) has a real-time OODA loop baked into its core - action and reaction
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
while such a level of generalization is proof to me that it's intelligent, it's clearly not *conscious* in that there's no OODA loop for it to interact with its surroundings, act, reassess, fight to survive, has rudimentary self-conception(a panda is conscious by this definition)
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
it seems maybe the Attention Transformer itself is that mystical architecture that was needed to make the jump tl;dr gpt3 is obscenely smart but not conscious. to achieve both I think we will need *agentic* language models
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@rudeloux google can’t write narratives for me as far as I can tell
@rudeloux It’s not just google though. It can learn tasks that it has not seen in its train set
· ↳ reply to @Noahpinion
@Noahpinion definitely has already been tapped right? russian misinformation campaigns, weaponized memes, space age propaganda etc
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Noahpinion it's just the beginning though, we are about to dial it up to 11 when countries start weaponizing the natural language bots
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@Noahpinion there's a neat scifi horror story about an AI demon that inhabits a guy's computer and subtly shifts all his input and output to goad him into certain ideologies of course, facebook, twitter, youtube have already created a bad approximation of this
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@charliebsu @Noahpinion our societies become more low trust by the minute. the price of lying is too low. eventually we will build misinformation immune systems fit for the internet age tand balkanize into info zones where we can actually verify truth
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@charliebsu @Noahpinion i think the elites are just as susceptible to info pollution as the average person is. in fact they're more likely to hunt for bad info and get caught in local minima b/c they more often engage with ideas that aren't tested in the daily reality of their life at all
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the AIDungeon phenomenon is incredible. Future generations of AIs will train on the old AIDungeon logs and finally we will be stuck one day communing with godlike intelligences by LARPing as a dungeon crawler
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thank u,,, tech leader
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@DukakisDude there are social ills that are outside of the realm of government to tackle
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@DukakisDude it’s very very hard to change culture by technocratic tweaking and sugar taxes and whatever else
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@browserdotsys also every dan brown book features middle aged classicists that rescue and sleep with 20 something heroines
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· ↳ reply to @s8mb
@s8mb in fairness, you can see the ratios in this thread the crazies are getting destroyed
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i rest easy knowing that even if GRRM dies early, GPT-5 will autocomplete his series
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· ↳ reply to @tszzl
@jachaseyoung the way these models work, they can compare between different outputs and tell you which of them seems more likely. So yeah, it could probably pick a best ending out of a given set and refine it further and such
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· ↳ reply to @jachaseyoung
@jachaseyoung absolutely dude but I will say, I’m grading on a scale for the AI. I would not have been unduly impressed if a human had written the same thing(s)
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· ↳ reply to @alecbzrr
@alecbzr dammit bro you shouldn’t tag people in posts where others are poking fun at them he blocked me for this — in the future dropping a screenshot is better than a quote tweet
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