@Mimi_Rose_01@growing_daniel the homeless all know each other. those guys are saving each other from heroin overdoses on the reg. no closer bond than that
the damage done by the American regulatory state doesn’t end at our borders. the entire world is in the de facto american regulatory regime due to path dependence of technology
@MegaBasedChad all the really important regulation happens at the federal level
california is just somewhat more strict on environment and privacy stuff
@abettertake@sheslostheplot Yeah I’m aware, federal regulation that comes from the executive branch bureaucracy especially should have sunset clause on every last thing
there’s a type of guy who is:
- a staunch atheist
- only buys index funds
- highly logical, doesn’t make broad claims
- didn’t get laid in college
i love them. they’re the footsoldiers of science and engineering
@andrejwagmi He has two modes I’ve noticed
1) curt, businesslike, usually reserved for executives, but very human
2) addressing the masses (verbose, grandiose, appears like a lizard)
ok let’s talk about this. there’s nothing in biology that requires unknown physics to figure out. its all information processing and molecular mechanics. so we can assume that given a long enough timeframe eventually synthetic wombs will be possible
so they’ll use it in hospitals to save extremely premature babies and unwanted embryos and such. from there it cascades: infertile women demand womb tank tech rather than making a surrogate in India do it instead (which is quite a bit more disturbing for most)
they’ll then immediately become commercially inevitable due to potential use by the meat industry to print livestock at scale. then, people will notice that we’re not using this miracle technology to save premie babies and abortions, and what kind of monster lets babies die.
finally most taboo around synthetic wombs is done for and the rest of Pandora’s box will be unleashed. much of it will seem disturbing to today’s humans and uninteresting to future contemporaries, and the cycle repeats
despite these capabilities I don’t think it’ll result in mass produced baby dystopia. why? because the value of human life is increasing over time and shows no signs of abating — tolerable deaths are trending to zero in drug testing or nuclear plants or anything else
“Ingroup” is not an ironic overture to the SSC post. Ingroup is a social technology invented by big accounts to create a nebulous feeling of togetherness and you’re playing right into it
@MegaBasedChad the real transition from lower to middle class that he’s referencing is the Hopium of career. the lower class already gave up and tried to start families
i love how there are like 10 million IVF kids alive today, you probably run into a few, and nobody really cares despite moral panic like 2 culture war cycles ago
@pescaincognita grimes mentioned a good point that ive been repeating for a long time & getting called a bugman. pregnancy is unironically basically the last violence inflicted on people on the regular. and yeah, its totally necessary violence, but better world is possible
americans will literally have the leviathan might of overwhelming military & cultural domination pointed at your face and believe they're the underdogs
there is no “belt and road initiative”. it’s yet another post hoc rationalization to justify emerging markets infrastructure projects deemed too shitty by american companies
@growing_daniel@oscaroverflow Each level of the chinese state doesn’t even agree on what BRI entails only some vague notion of infrastructure projects running out of steam at home and the need to look for foreign customers
@Noahpinion this seems silly to me seeing as even the most geopolitically advantageous ports like the Sri Lankan one have not been turned into military ports
@Noahpinion rich countries will spend more and more on healthcare pushing into the territory of diminishing returns -> sign of abundance, not failure
true re: aircraft carriers but again this is a symptom of peacetime profligacy
@fakegeekguy@jeff82874662 sphere of influence in mostly irrelevant underedeveloped countries is not the prize you think it is though. not to mention most infrastructure debt trap defaults still go to the west
@LudditeHacker if anything it's the opposite lol. it's construction firms & merchants skimming billions from chinese coffers and the politicians are reduced to spinning nice narratives over it
The ML methods we create for protein structure prediction are the rare machine intelligence synthesis of verbal sequence understanding and spatial intelligence. Evoformer + Residue gas. a step towards semantic grounding
@Noahpinion but what is the theory of mind here? why would china invest expecting sri lanka to allow it to turn into a chinese military port? seems like the obvious answer is 'no' and china would've known that
@AdamNeumannsCoS depending on a few things
if it’s the type of company where there’s so much fundraiser money that homies never have to do any technical work themselves then yeah
the only two political poles in the future will be the ones who think psychology matters more than the outside world and the ones who think the outside world matters more than psychology
the tesla/elon/spacex engineering approach is a bit confusing. at first glance they highly emphasize "first principles thinking" aka rationalism. drill down to primary problem components and create abstraction ladders from scratch
so then it seems the tsla approach isn't really a tradeoff between rationalism and empiricism but just pareto improvement on both. kinda fucked up. philosophycels btfo yet again
but then also most commentators attribute the success of these companies of bringing the tech company ethos of move fast break things (empiricism) over year long planning sessions drawing specs and such
the United States Postal Service delivers around 170million pieces of First Class mail every single day, averaging to 2000 pieces of mail per second. The ethereum blockchain can handle around 30 transactions per second
ts kind of fucked how my parents traveled across the world with the hopes of sending their kids to some of the worlds best schools but even the worlds best schools are basically shit shows
@sdand@michelledavenpt yeah i think growing up with really smart kids is key but also not get ground into dust by the rat race and turned into someone whose not unique anymore
@dcwych@AshtearLucca i think most open ended learning for me fails to impart long lasting knowledge
learning things instrumentally as i need them to solve a problem on the other hand tends to stick
@dcwych@AshtearLucca i understood almost nothing about EM waves despite getting an A in 400 level E&M
then i had to really learn it to do some chem/optical research and it stuck after that
@civdvs_c@varunramg@man_ruins you can delay short term growth for long term prosperity by building an industrial base - at least that’s the chinese thesis
yo it would’ve been so based to be there when Alexander (he/him) rallied the Macedonian army (they/them) at Gaugamela where they saw an eagle (it/its) fly overhead carrying the favor of Zeus (He/Him) and king Darius (he/they) shat his pants fr fr no cap
@arapirilous imo its axiomatic that less people is bad. i like people!
but moreso than that fewer births means even the people left live more impoverished lives due to the ratio of working age : elder age population shrinking
@lndian_Bronson@IvyAstrix@eriktorenberg a soldier is a person who is dutybound and not a creative; this deontological flow is important for them
a founder is the exact opposite. they have no duty to do anything at all and in fact they may be served well by ignoring duties and thinking consequentially
@lndian_Bronson@IvyAstrix@eriktorenberg the greatest companies of the past decades have been started by people who felt allegiance to some technological cause ("connect humanity", "backup mankind on many worlds") and turned their project into a business
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz i know they're not exactly comparable but my point was the predictions are probably reaching the threshold of accuracy where deviation from the ground truth structure is itself questionable
@BasedBeff I think people are moving goalposts with the protein dynamics stuff - it’s true but not a deal breaker at all. The static low energy structure alone unlocks plenty of alpha
@BasedBeff What’s more it seems that AF2-multimeric is quite good at predicting end state protein complexes without knowing intermediate folding dynamics and exact conformational distribution
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz you're 100% right but also too pessimistic imo
reading about the history of rational drug design we've made some wild jumps in experiments to try with far lower caliber input than "high confidence extremely accurate structure prediction"
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz these methods don't need to be some golden bullet that accurately predict all structures & interactions in all cases to have utility - if you can even bias some HTS and have increased hit rates it's probably already useful
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz at the very least we can say that big pharma considers it worthwhile to pour some gas on these experiments vis a vis all the partnerships with AI biotech plays
@eurydicelives lol ive been on here for a while and ive seen some schizo Takes. one of my favorite was some marxist saying we should tax beautiful women
if you don't believe in the natural gravity of capital then just run a twitter account and watch the exponential growth in followers for doing the same amount of work
@joodaloop@eurydicelives@Rididelduol@Mimi_Peacock capital is when you have a girl pfp (or even vibes) and get 1000 followers without doing anything. labor is when you're an anon tweeting 20 bangers a day in the mines
fukuyama's "End of History" doesn't necessitate that any individual state lives forever but rather that no better systems than liberalism are ultimately possible. in his logic the american empire can collapse and history can still be over
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz it looks like the 1st ex. of this was in the 80s when a group noticed that ACE probably looks sort of like BPA (which they had a crystal for) and this lead to the creation of ACE inhibitors
i mean if you can get signal from models that vague then your bar seems way too high
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz maybe im thinking about this wrong and all the low hanging fruit has been tapped in 40 years but the methods are getting better too
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz structural bio people are far from obsolete just a handful of boring work for them has just been automated
these tools should make you guys more powerful
guy who GMOs a plant that synthesizes a protein under drug patent, lets it proliferate in the wild, argues in court that the protein is naturally occurring and therefore unpatentable, Pfizer stock goes to 0,
@peachblvd@cauchyfriend let's just say i'm preparing you for the post apocalypse when the social order breaks down and men and women will have to pee on a dime in random places ...
@himbodhisattva@peachblvd the zooming out is fine for me bc i spend enough time reading scifi to be inoculated from most brainfucking
it's more that infinities start breaking both my logic and my intuition
this thread is great fun but honestly makes zero sense. but the best part is accusing yc/stripe of manipulating hacker news results as though anyone reads that trash https://x.com/ryanbreslow/status/1485784823641755648
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz >7 synthesized compounds
and they generate a high affinity lead
this is far from my pessimistic case of just biasing some high throughput screens
it's actually just straight up in silico lead identification
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz the paper is very industrial and reads like an advertisement but still i think both of you are being too bearish on in silico affinity prediction
@ollyrobot i should also be able to get a DNS for physical addresses from my govt, no more of this changing 1 million website's delivery options every so often bullshit
@ollyrobot it doesnt need universal adoption to be useful
govt creates a dns book for addresses and eg amazon can opt into taking address domains and then user can opt into giving address domains
@ollyrobot (speaking from usa perspective) tbh bank accts should be logical entities spun up by the Fed with derived classes created by consumer banks that offer features on top
the current method offers only an illusion of independence from govt alongside painful KYC and late settlement
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz But also as this paper is an existence proof that maybe there’s a set of drug binding problems where (1) theres a good target identified (2) real crystal structure is unavailable (3) dynamics are not too relevant for the given affinity problem
then we’re cooking with gas
@dcwych@stevejohnryan@halvorz the size of this set seems to be the interesting variable … so I’m curious, what % of crystallized structures have proven to be undruggable?
@dcwych@halvorz@stevejohnryan It’s an arxiv preprint it’s staking credit so they can publish a bigger paper later - but now InSilico can say “hey we got the first alphafold related drug lead”
@dcwych@halvorz@akbirthko@stevejohnryan I don’t think there’s any adversarial relationship between bio and ML at all I’m just trying to figure out whether my company is going to go belly up
@dcwych@halvorz@stevejohnryan i remain hopeful that they put out more info on this tho
overall what amazes me about AF & AF-multimeric was the amount of information that was hiding in the evolutionary history beating out all physics based approaches -- makes me think theres a lot more to do here
@dcwych@halvorz@stevejohnryan even in binding problems that involve complex dynamics i can no longer conscionably think the best way to approach the truth is running insane MD simulations
@dcwych@halvorz@stevejohnryan lol this'll be a tough sell but AF2 is a relatively small model with a humble inference compute demand - you could run the final version on commodity hardware at home on proteins below a certain size
my next company needs to be only insane schizo online degenerates. we will have a private mastodon instance instead of slack. no professionals no suits no phd grads only r*tards
apparently @quantumVerd has turned me into a quantum ghost! i don't quite get it but i am told this is produced on a quantum computer simulating the early universe biased towards a certain image
@gbrl_dick also I think its not a half bad human right (much better than the very nebulous “housing” because it has an objective measure: is the individual starving)
the first derivative here should be interesting … if 2022 has more people than 2021 they rly memed Miami tech into existence and the internet reins supreme
the “Stripe East India Company” has colonized my people and is forcing them to work long hours in the payment fraud mines. Irish goons have kneecapped all resistance leaders. pls send help