@BroductManager it’s actually really hard to get emotionally invested in meeting outcome when it’s on zoom
i have a natural advantage at the groupcall format based on years of discording but still prefer in person meeting
@bayes_baes do you know how lax the diagnostic criteria for things like adhd are. I went and got diagnosed for it so I could have a reliable addy supply. took me a matter of two days and i didn’t even lie in the questionnaire
@sgodofsk@BarneyFlames@SkepticalAlpaca i mean you’re paying on the asset price which varies with interest rates and whatnot
sort of bad approximation of consumption tax if it varies with the cash flow model
@mattdsegal@ollyrobot true but there are shadow prices that exist anyway so long as there are resource allocation problems
might as well make slightly more explicit
@mattdsegal@ollyrobot i mean each team already has OKRs right? I’m imagining people already overfit on those — the dollar value may be constructed to be more holistic
@mattdsegal@ollyrobot like my team has very loose budgetary ROI frameworks for requesting more compute
the process is so bad and fake that i can’t imagine dollar framework wouldn’t improve it
@ollyrobot lol yeah that’s entirely possible
people generally conceive of ASI as becoming literally omniscient instantly but there may very well be local minima in its self optimization landscape
@pee_zombie true but seems like a trivial answer to me
optimizer advanced enough to take down a space faring civilization (we will get to Mars before AGI) should also be spacefaring
“Paper clip AIs are limited in their intelligence” argument suggests there are whole dead planets / star systems / galaxies out there made of paper clips rn
@pee_zombie greedy on what scale? to me the “greed” term is just a scalar parameter for explore/exploit tradeoff decisions. humans are greedy but they manage to do planning anyway
the ability to take down human civ implies some long term planning ability
@krishnanrohit I’m not sure if we can judge it by the internal metrics so better to judge it by outputs — uptime, stability, that kind of thing
how often does it require human intervention?
@krishnanrohit i like their framework though. how often does OS crash during <some regular user behavior> should be a metric of note, even if we haven’t systematically collected the data
this is aesthetically displeasing to me because it suggests even unbounded intelligence can’t figure out interstellar (or intergalactic travel) so i will ignore it
@krishnanrohit # of bugs found in Linux kernel
is a bad metric because there’s a supply and demand side to that. people want to find bugs in Linux kernel because it’s immensely important, so they will traverse the edges of thought to find esoteric security flaws and publish papers
“prefer simple solutions to complicated ones” seems like an actually good cornerstone for science and tech progress but also
simpleness is a great heuristic for guessing whether somethings been tried already
the distributed search algorithm is sending me towards complexity
@pee_zombie a perfectly greedy black box (0 order) optimizer won’t hill climb
random variation is a sink for computational resources. in that way not even hill climbing is perfectly greedy because it does in fact explore instead of just exploiting at the current level
@pee_zombie likewise a policy / agent that’s 100% greedy will never try anything new
it would need to be born with a perfect world model of everything that it needs to accomplish
like a simple software program
@Hellachans honestly wonder why we don’t just skip the AI part and just have remote drive through operators from cheaper wage zones
someone has to do the actual cooking obviously but i don’t see why listening to customer order and clicking buttons has to be done onsite
@EdRushman@Hellachans lol yeah mentioned this in another thread
AI that can adjust language & dialect based on the speakers voice would be nuts
creepy but nuts
@EdRushman@Hellachans i mean forget customers, just apply this directly to political speech and the possibilities are endless. you could make the least convincing candidate into a charismatic hero
@EdRushman@Hellachans arms race tbh
AIs that detect tampering wage war with tampering AIs
unfortunately there’s lots more money to be made in the latter than the former so we have to solve common good coordination problem
@storebrandguy I mean I’m kind of confident corruption had something to do with her current position. Schumer remains a steadfast ally of big tech in congress lol
@visakanv lol I’ll unblock you for a bit but. realize that blocking is less conflict avoidant than muting. it’s actively telling you to fuck off. we argued a few times but you probably don’t remember
@ipsumkyle@visakanv@acidshill@eigenrobot guy who thinks self deprecation is a pathology
guy who is keeping a file on my old tweets (someone he doesn’t even follow) for poasting material later
@peachblvd or like moon landing photos. The most beautiful thing in that thing is the Apollo landing module and the wonders it represents rather than the pockmarked hellscape. But I will admit this is a 100% sperg take
Sorry, not sorry, not going to care about Afghanistan because I grew up playing DotA 2 on US East servers with itinerant Russians.
Seeing the AXAXAXAXAX in the chatbox was my own “Afghanistan” for almost 20 years.
all my relatives in India complain about the skyrocketing cost of manual labor to clean their houses and stuff
it’s a good sign of high education until you realize many of them are now gainfully employed in click farms instead
@lalaAlicelala@alth0u is tru but althou works at a high tech company and his coworkers really not about to get laid off or fired unless they unbelievably fuck up
results about what I expected
male slightly more inclined to be anthropic and female much more inclined to natural
makes perfect sense when considering massive gender gap in aversion to nuclear power etc
this thread explicitly states that they were all making 1M+ and mfs wanna convince me that these engineers were exploited or smthng
no they were just workaholics and that’s necessary and fine
@lisatomic5 if you’ve ever read one of the Einstein bios
it’s nuts how well they can put together his life based on the long history of his substantial letters to wife and academic correspondents
narrativizes his own life perfectly& thoughtfully in a way that could not be paralleled today
@0x543211 the basis of snow crash is its jurisdictional proliferation, in which tiny suburbs can now incorporate as countries with their own laws
if this happens anything is possible
@perceptions420 i'll be real i tweeted that before i even got the font transition. i told myself it was postironic but i may have just been farming for likes
@aeronlaffere@nntaleb the core function of it isn’t to bulk any main muscle groups imo
it’s more like hit everything in between that more targeted exercise miss
holistic af — no minor group left behind
@kristineCreates it’s not good that they got banned it’s that
1) if they have to get banned to support broader use then I’m cool with that
2) every person that makes chairs doesn’t need to pay their respects to the og people that sold chairs
3) “exploit for profit” is literally noun verb gumbo
@kristineCreates@dirtymagus idk what this guys argument is but i dont think letting sex workers use your platform profitably for their own benefit is somehow "using and disposing of them"
i get it it kind of sucks that they built their livelihood there and got dunked on but its gotta be net pos for SWers
@chrisgardenuk@ollyrobot i guess but this is too materialistic vs my point
we're also talking technological gambles, scientific gambles, whatever
they're pretty hard to quantify but if nobody ever did any high risk weird ass tinkering there wouldnt be any progress right
@chrisgardenuk@ollyrobot everything interesting produced by humans is some sort of weird unquantifiable bespoke gamble that will not come with an easy expected value number
@wowholyfucking no i very much doubt that they would be susceptible to that particular brainworm
they have their own bullshit but they’d happily get vaxxed
@wowholyfucking I mean yeah these people are all awful shitstains but imo Trust The Science instincts would’ve overruled once fda gave emergency approval
@Hellachans I’m surprised they haven’t rewritten this shit since it’s so directly consumer facing and clearly useless
and how that bodes for the mountains of regulatory code that isn’t consumer facing
if you think the difference between a successful school and an unsuccessful one is multicolored toys vs wooden toys your whole civilization is NGMI https://x.com/mbateman/status/1427999268636446722
@sheslostheplot yo agreed, getting the choice is awesome if it’s available but mfs in the comments talking like this is going to make or break their child lol
i don’t think Americans realize how vaunted their schools are across the world (despite the unflattering summary statistics) and how much parents would do to get their kids out of classrooms that look like this lol
@The_Equationist on the very margin. these are the concerns of a post-scarcity society that has already otherwise solved schooling, which we certainly have not
@ollyrobot@helorides4freee@hyperboreanterf yea i was being brusque but the whole point of my QT is that people are placing cart before horse
esthetics are important just less important than the replies and deranged QTs suggest
@pee_zombie really starting to think rightoids might be fundamentally anxious and weak people running scared of every stupid ass thing
oh no muh oat milk
ppl are like "roon whats your endgame for your twitter account" bro i just type whatever verbal vomit shows up in my head into the tweet box i dont have no strategy
most of the academics i met were awesome people with a song in their heart and a real lifelong love of research. they all knew they were getting shafted in the labor market and that their friends were becoming rich without them and were fine with it
its a materialist cope to be like 'all the smart people have left academia to optimize ad clicks' no the tradeoffs are real and some people happily make them
that being said obviously most people dont have the personality type for becoming graybeards and thats fine ... its much much worse for people with political agendas to end up in academic tracks with no interest in doing original research
@PradyuPrasad i mean maybe, who knows
usually you need to do research in an academic environment to get the privilege of getting access to industrial resources
the real problem with academia is easily explained by simple supply and demand
everybody wants to be a researcher and theres not enough actual slots for professors to roll the dice on you
leading to longer phd cycles and overwork and hypercompetition and fake papers