@ITBeHa have you seen the other East Asians? Taiwan shuts down whole cities (voluntarily and gladly) when there’s one detected case of covid — it’s safe to assume that China does the same and their culture can’t realistically allow the virus to rampage
@ITBeHa SARS did a number on them - imo Americans are too optimistic about Chinese ability to control info flow outwards. One leaked video is all it takes to learn the truth. Much easier to control info flow inwards by monitoring the platforms
@skdh the bottom of the abstraction stack is far sexier than the top
in software and in science
kernel devs are wizards whereas application engineers are monke
@paleoludic every moment of every day you’re successfully caching actions
im glad I don’t really have to think about the route when I drive myself to the gym
@nickcammarata Elon is a great example — do you think he would do the things he does if he wasn’t miserable and tortured? Is it “load bearing”? If you could press a button and raise his baseline satisfaction would he quit all his jobs and go chill on the beach with his kids
@nickcammarata im not sure of the answer but would be an awesome world if happiness and ambition are not disassociated. i know it’s definitely the case for some people that they can exist together “tap dancing to work”
im glad the NeurIPS spotlight papers every year are like "we have figured out how neural net works this time i swear" bc at least they're trying to do a bit of science instead of some fake engineering that doesn't scale
@ollyrobot probably getting to scale is hard (but not impossible) due to irregularity of market rules
every city and state in the US has vastly different housing regs, not sure about UK
@ollyrobot i cannot imagine a drudgery more profound than making a payments app work in hundreds/thousands of regulatory jurisdictions but mr. collison makes it look sexy
all the flashy deepmind papers are like "we used 12 intermediate losses and a 5 stage architecture" meanwhile openai papers are like "we made the model bigger"
@95thoughts@nickcammarata yeah but this actually makes it feel less like tripping
remembering a really weird experience is a more powerful than just not remembering anything
@ouranometrian lets say even just 10% of people find them dangerously addictive
then caution is probably warranted
tho i dont know the ins and outs of why they dont just use them more sparingly instead of banning
@LudditeHacker ok but here we are using the 20 year old internet 10 hours a day without having any clue what it does to our minds
the world is a dynamic mess and the only constant is change
@LudditeHacker 1) i'm confident ivermectin is useless against covid
2) it's been around for like 50 odd years and probably won't kill you
3) completely fine to throw shit against the wall and see what sticks. assuming the downside risk is arbitrarily large based on nothing is not at all sound
@LudditeHacker basically every medical threat is immediate
if people are dying by the millions to cancer or heart disease or whatever our risk tolerance in experimentation should be very high
@MorlockP yeah that’s an idiotic take. I mean look at how Enders game deals with the many factions in the “One World Government”, or how it falls apart right after the buggers are defeated
the telos of 1WG is more like “there are bigger enemies right now”
@thesravaka everyone says self driving cars will be “safer” but it’s a sideshow compared to the boatloads of money to be saved from cars driving themselves
we would deploy them even if they were 10x less safe than humans and had no hope of becoming safer
@thesravaka idk is it? i think “I would rather have a human identify if every image on google is violence or porn but it’s too expensive” is a very different sentiment than “computers are better than humans”
@alth0u if the margin was like 5% then they'd need to make you buy more than $1000 of extra mcdonalds a year to get to fb levels of LTV. but the gross margins are something insane like 50%
@alth0u but still the open questions are like
app that sends deals is adverse selection for lower margin purchases
people that download coupon apps are adverse selection for low income cunsomers (aside from asian dad mfs like @alth0u)
@powerbottomdad1@monodevice the truth is i smoked a lot of Spice and calculated that i had to leave the gc to prevent greater calamities in the future. uont even know what i saved u from
@About_Medicine@ArtirKel@michael_nielsen yeah because someone had to write a CUDA library to run neural nets on graphics cards. once that happened the NN revolution was on its way
@woke8yearold that's neat indeed but fundamentally its inside baseball
crypto governance for crypto exchanges
waiting for when it might run even a small sized corporation that dabbles in digital or real world services b4 balaji types talk about countries on the blockchain and shit
@AOCummies@AFPoster@jane_gatsby it’s just a series of blogposts that people take somewhat too seriously. I will try my hardest to literally never say postrat anymore
@lisatomic5 yeah
one of the best government interventions in software would be forcing companies to open an API layer that’s amenable to one of these agents
@halvorz yeah it’s a cope for not having a grand theory of which academics we can trust
i will always trust engineers to figure out the optimal temperature of a McDonald’s coffee but need scientists to get to an understanding of anything not in direct contact with market forces
@halvorz moreover the lines are very blurry in academia who is an engineer vs scientist
might just have been my labs but the titles of our papers were always “X: A Novel way to do Y”
the telos was invention rather than discovery
unfortunately there’s no neat theory of causal path between science and engineering
many such cases for both science preceding engineering and engineering preceding science
sometime around early 20th century theory seems to have outstripped application in physics cc @atroyn
@michaelcurzi I agree but the trad conclusion seems like a non sequitur
as far as I can tell satisfaction stays constant after a hedonic treadmill period — so why should I prefer modesty or obscenity? it just doesn’t seem to matter
@lisatomic5 isn’t it just constrained optimization on a surface
being less bad along what my possibilities frontier allows
thank u for listening to roon reddit hour
@_Sowellsista_@talkingrevolut1 yeah multiple layers but nobody is gonna come on here and brag about their insanely good casual sex and even if they did it’s not the kind of content that thrives on twitter
unless they make it funny somehow
@lisatomic5 like … why do medical students spend like kings even though they’re deeply in debt? they have some intuition that the NPV of their career is high
@_Sowellsista_@talkingrevolut1 Ya agreed. there’s just a lot of trad accounts saying people (especially women) universally hate casual sex and have psyopped themselves into doing it anyway
seems extremely doubtful!
@marx_knopfler they call it triangle self attention which i havent fully wrapped my head around but like
the intuition is that when you update 2 pairwise distances (A ->B) and (A -> C)
then you should update (B -> C) as well (triangle inequality rule AB + AC > BC)
@houellebecq_2 yeah honestly i changed my mind on this one after i posted it
definitely mfs hiding their lack of any interesting thought whatsoever by naming 100 different minor lords or new terminology
@brandonazheng Genesis 3:22 NIV
'And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”'
@brandonazheng christians would say he is referring to the plural trinity
jews would say he is referring to the orders of angels
i say he is referring to other gods
@pee_zombie ya i believe utterly that the universe is bound by natural law that doesn't get tampered with
but this is not a very strong claim because natural law can encompass anything
@Cererean dont know why people fetishize these evolved road patterns that are clearly impossible to navigate
modern city should have planned streets and let the buildings / land use evolve
kaggle challenges be like "ok solve this problem thats easily hard enough to merit a nips/iclr paper and will create tens of millions of dollars of value for us and we will give you a few k"
the worst possible use of resources I can think of is building a billion dollar super suit so you can stop some guy from stealing $200 worth of snacks from Walgreens https://x.com/antoniogm/status/1420399996239695872
@0x543211@kyzcralotSxaM not really it means software ate the world and the level of technology we once thought was important has become hidden under new abstraction layers
@lisatomic5@eigenrobot you prolly already considered this but can you just pay someone to do it?
im gonna try and outsource more work i hate going forward lol
@caesararum@lowqualitybot@Duderichy i dont think theres realistically a way to make the hard parts of your job easier. its more like the boring parts that you dont want to do
@kitten_beloved im speaking for myself and not eigen at this point but there were several times in college where I stayed up all night because I couldn’t convince myself to write a dumbass presentation I had no interest in
hugely harmful to me
certain kind of smart person needed to develop zero discipline in school to get by, last minute panic + neurotic anxiety as sole engine of personal energy
now supercharged by diabetic feedback loop of attentional spike and dysregulation via recommender systems
@context_ing@gbrl_dick yea my attention was fucked even when I was doing genuinely interesting cutting edge research. no hope now while I tune ad models
@nEquals001@kitten_beloved no i certainly understanding doing stuff at night -- thats the only way ive ever done anything
but staying up all night to make a 5 slide powerpoint, that truly felt like my soul was slipping out of my body
what is it about the nighttime that makes it easier to concentrate? is it
- the temporary high of sleep deprivation
- some biological rhythm that gives a burst of executive function towards the night
- is it that no ones up on the internet and i can focus
@powerbottomdad1 like no one expects you to work? idk thats probably a negative like
10-6 i feel some urgency to work (but dont do it)
6-some ungodly hour im just chilling even tho theres no expectation
some ungodly hour -- im getting work done!
they made this thing ridiculous with the climate branding but mechanically transforming rooms and furniture r just cool. someone should make a nice luxury brand out of it instead. "these transform because it looks cyberpunk af and for no other reason" https://x.com/Joshmedia/status/1414381981295685640
@halvorz went back and reread it. similar:
theres a rapist going around whose DNA is made up of nonstandard engineered nucleotide bases so the PCR traces arent working
@halvorz also, give it to me straight doc, the methods section looks like gibberish to me:
how applicable is this method to creating RNA polymerase or ribosomes and when can we have L-humans
@halvorz wait wait wait so you can make a shitty inefficient ribosome with only RNA pol? in that case:
make shitty_L_ribosome
manufacture L-ribosomal proteins with
shitty_L_ribosome(ribosome_protein_L_dna)
-> good_L_ribosome
-> nega roon coming soon
@Lan_Dao_ doesnt this lead to the meme of "increasingly psychopathic self love fanatic"
like if i commit a heinous crime why should i love that part of me
@Nexuist@eigenrobot you can't actually rotate enantiomers into their mirror image because those mirror image bonds are physically stable
but you can rotate many other flexible bonds
i hate the interview question "what is the hardest problem you've solved / debugged"
like ok let me give you 2 hours of background on this technical issue and why its hard and then you'll be impressed
@halvorz@sgodofsk mirror algal bloom -> cant be eaten and carbon rereleased, eventually die after depleting iron
this is the way
but im guessing it would be way easier just synthesizing some phytoplankton with indigestible/unfamiliar proteins
@eigenrobot@nickcammarata@uncatherio ok not saying it wouldnt be catastrophic but someone who can engineer L Cyanobacteria can also make its natural predator bacterium and then it’ll be brave new world
@eigenrobot@noahzsolomon@nickcammarata@uncatherio is there a way to do that with the tools we have so far? I thought it’s path dependent but maybe if you engineer some special ribosomal proteins that are able to make the mirror image proteins of the mRNA…
i dont know why would people go into consulting when non-tech roles in the tech industry will pay you 2x as much for 0.5x the work and sometimes you can accidentally create real products
@MegaBasedChad consumer banking is of course a trash market that only survives due to the ability to give added value with other products on top such as CCs
@MegaBasedChad now that stripe turned “bank account” into a commoditized conceptual product that doesn’t differentiate between banks at all I’m guessing someone like robinhood will just own the younger consumer banking market
@Substr8Monopoly@95thoughts if you have limited compute substrate, learning is another word for rewriting. after a while you might have rewritten yourself out of existence
@reconfigurthing no it’s core to his worldview and not non sequitur I think
just like people try to separate lovecrafts racial stuff from his fiction — doesn’t make sense
@iamwhoisme total cope because “rationalism” is basically the de facto ideology of the silicon valley ppl distilled to its principles by yud and ssc and whoever
@alth0u I very much think that the general form of language model is solved via external text retrieval, but unfortunately makes it somewhat hard to train at scale when you’re waiting for the network call